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Politics : Formerly About Advanced Micro Devices -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Yousef who wrote (77019)	10/26/1999 3:05:00 AM
From: Michael DaKota	Respond to of 1576587

re : "But in this case the change is bigger, he said. Gwennap explained that in today?s Pentium III, there's a central processing unit (CPU) chip, and an external cache (or secondary memory) that's built into this module, sending costs higher." Now whats so spectacular about that? Totally nothing. You just repeat the intel marketing department like a parrot Ppro and celeron-A have had intergrated cache for AGES. As a matter afact , even the K6-3 has had intergrated 256 kb cache WAY before intel had their "innovative" coppermine. Just old technology, still competetive trough MHz .18 process (MHz!) and what they did to the cache management, but with intels yearly income I would have expected something K8-ish-like with 1mb-ish cache on-die by now..but no..old core, old marketing talk...over and over again. Put it in slot1 formfactor -- sell it as new! (while just being a ppro with MMX..) Put it in a Slot2 formfactor -- Sell it as new! (while just being a ppro with mmx) Remove the cache and sell it as new! (While just being a ppro with mmx without l2 cache in slot1 formfactor) Add 128 kb intergrated l2 cache! (Just a 128kb ppro with mmx..gee nothing new again!) Add a copy of AMD's innovative 3dnow simd instructions to the core , sell it as new! (Just a ppro with 512kb off-die l2 on slot-1 with mmx) Add better and improved (would be time by now, geesh) cache subsystem, with SSE and MMX (Just a ppro on .18 process with intergrated 256 kb l2..they studied 6 years to go from ppro to THIS??) Now I probably missed a lot of points, but ok. Just one thing..it saddens me tough that intels competitors should be ashamed of themselves that they didnt develope anything much faster than intels over-aged ppro clones. Intel always had the profits , and competitors in this branche where trying to keep their heads above the water, I think the pentium line of cpu's were the best , un-parallaled in their time. Cyrix / NextGen / AMD had their good designs (Actually amd's good design were based uppon those of nextgen..but everyone knows that) , but no profits. It's impressive that the "underdog" , without much (any?:) profits, managed to develope a superior cpu design, in such an extremeley short time ,while cooping with ramping problems and designing various other cpu's in that same time (K6-2, K6-3 ..they didnt just get 3dnow on a plate you know) so this is my reason why I didnt/dont like intel to much (well, intels policy ). Maybe im being idealistic, but hey, im just an end-user and I like to get some value for what I pay, and am not paying to fatten mr intel's bank account. FHWL, Michael da kota. Geesh I shouldnt be getting up this early..getting all philosphical..and my spelling is even worse than it usually is....well part of being dutch I guess:)