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To: Thomas M. who wrote (3874)	10/26/1999 2:45:00 PM
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Just in case any of the readers of this thread are unaware what kind of a seedy character Pete Rose is, here is a good article: Dowd: Rose Caused Embarrassing Night Tuesday, October 26, 1999 New York -- The Washington lawyer who investigated Pete Rose's gambling habits 10 years ago said inviting the banned player to the All-Century ceremony was ''like inviting Willie Sutton to a bankers meeting.'' John Dowd, who compiled a 225-page report on Rose in 1989 along with seven volumes of evidence, also said Rose doesn't want to admit ties to mobsters and said the former player lied when he claimed he has never seen baseball's evidence. ''He got to see it all, and then he was given a copy of everything,'' Dowd said. Before submitting the report to baseball, Dowd confronted Rose and his lawyers with the evidence during a meeting at a convent in Dayton, Ohio, April 21-22, 1989, including evidence Rose bet on the Reds to win 52 times from April 8 to July 5, 1987. All that information was made public by an Ohio judge on June 26, 1989. Dowd insisted Rose is incapable of admitting guilt. ''I don't think he wants to talk about his relationship with the mob,'' Dowd said. ''If he says he bet on baseball, the next question leads inexorably to his debt to the mob. How much it was? Have you paid it off? Were you in communication with them when you were manager of the Cincinnati Reds? ''How did he come in second with the best team in baseball? I'd say the bookmaker makes a lot of money.'' Dowd was angry that commissioner Bud Selig invited Rose to participate in Sunday's ceremony along with the 17 other living members of the 30-man All-Century Team. ''It was an embarrassing night,'' Dowd said. ''It was like inviting Willie Sutton to a bankers meeting. It was incredible.'' Dowd's reference was to Sutton, a famous bank robber of the mid-20th century. Rose's attorney, Gary Spicer, said Dowd's statements were reckless and damaging to baseball. ''Whether it's frustration or desperation, it's unfortunate,'' Spicer said. ''I think John Dowd continues to offer very malicious, vindictive comments that are unnecessary.'' Commissioner A. Bartlett Giamatti died the week after the agreement was signed on Aug. 23, 1989, and Rose waited until September 1997 to apply. Selig repeatedly has said he has no intention of altering the lifetime ban, while Rose says he thought Giamatti would have allowed him to come back. ''The idea that Bart would have reinstated Pete is ludicrous,'' said Fay Vincent, who was Giamatti's deputy and succeeded him as commissioner. Vincent said he wouldn't have invited Rose to the ceremony but didn't want to be too critical of Selig. ''It would have been a great occasion for Pete to be more gracious and more humble, but that's not Pete,'' Vincent said. Rather than contest Dowd's report, at a hearing before Giamatti, Rose signed the ban agreement. ''He agreed there was a factual basis and agreed the investigation was fair,'' Dowd said, referring to language in the agreement Rose signed. Dowd said Rose should never be allowed on a major league field. Dowd revealed that the commissioner's office filed a complaint against him with the District of Columbia bar about 1 1/2 years ago in an attempt to keep him from speaking publicly about the Rose case.