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Gold/Mining/Energy : SOUTHERNERA (t.SUF) -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: VAUGHN who wrote (4798)10/27/1999 4:44:00 PM
From: Rocky510  Respond to of 7235
 
Nice post Vaughn - totally agree. eom



To: VAUGHN who wrote (4798)10/27/1999 4:53:00 PM
From: Confluence  Respond to of 7235
 
Hello Vaughn,

Thanks for the interesting thoughts. Some points I agree with, others I do not. I think that all would agree that Chris Jennings is a top-notch, world class diamond explorationist. I think its fair to say that SUF is very much the net result of all the efforts that Dr. Jennings has put into the company.

The intrinsic value, the blue sky potential, the exploration upside, whatever you call it, will provide the long-term, large move upside that we all saw two years ago, and expect again sometime in the future. This is due to the abilities, the projects, the excellent people all brought to SUF by Dr. Jennings. I am sure there are many other positives that we are unaware of, things like political and corporate connections, etc.

As an exploration firm, no revenues are expected, and companies have to continually "go back to the trough" to raise capital through equity issuance. SUF, and Dr. Jennings as one of the world's foremost diamond explorationists, were excellent at this part of process, having raised about $82 million since inception, including the last financing at $17.35 back a couple years.

As you can imagine, raising this kind of money requires the assistance and support of buyers, brokerage firms and analysts, to name but a few. The rationale used by those on the buying side, or in the advisor role, is that the expenditure of this capital will lead to exploration success and development of profitable mines. This is exactly what the buyers of the $17.35 stock were expecting. And this is what SUF delivered, via Marsfontein and Klipspringer.

However, as will be obvious to all readers, difficulties, delays, whatever, have taken the "glow" off the rosy expectations of those who were involved in the process. The Marsfontein debacle scared away a lot of institutions who had relied on management to deliver as expected. Those analysts/investors who stayed the course were expecting certain levels of cash flow and earnings, according to the guidance provided by management. Thus, when the numbers delivered fail to meet the expectations, those involved in the process feel disappointed and misled. For myriad reasons, the analysts have abandoned SUF.

The many folks who post on this thread represent investors who have a pretty good understanding of the long-term potential of SUF. And the short term positive surprise potential from drilling results, recoveries, etc. This patience is not shared by all. For example, look at today's trading. 5,000 all day until 3:53 and then 12,500, all sold onto the bid. Why the impatience? Why whack the stock late in the day? Isn't good news on the Messina project, the Q3 numbers, the Leopard fissure, etc., expected any day now?

Its seems clear to me that those selling now are either forced to (margin?) or won't wait the few days until the good news flows. In other words, the selling shareholders don't have faith in SUF to deliver the news according to expectations. I hope they're wrong, but obviously they are motivated to sell the stock to continued new lows. This causes measurable damage to all present shareholders.

This is the main reason that new management is required. The investment community (investors, advisors, analysts, etc.) simply don't believe the management of SUF is capapble of delivering developments to meet expectations. Its that simple.

Another way to put it is something one analyst told me: "As the president of a public company, Chris Jennings is a good geologist". That is not to slight the rather obvious talents of Dr. Jennings, but to stress that SUF is best served by utilizing his vast ability on the exploration side, while leaving the administrivia, the hand-holding of investors, analysts, etc. to someone better suited to building the future image of SUF as a producing company with good earnings and cash flow, diversified operations, and the BEST EXPLORATION POTENTIAL of any diamond company.

As a shareholder, I have pleaded with Dr. Jennings for years to leave the annoying accounting, investor relations, corporate governance, administration, etc. to someone else, hell almost anyone else, and get himself back to the grassroots exploration. I truly believe that is best for SUF.

In my opinion, Klipspringer, Marsfontein and Messina should justify SUF at $10 or so. But I own this stock for the move much higher, and I believe this can only be accomplished by getting Dr. Jennings back to what he does best. Who cares what titles they give him? Call him the Chairman, the President, the Grand Poobah, whatever, but get him back on track on the exploration side, and let someone else handle the rest.

As we sit with shares in a company with a market cap of under $60 million, it is clear that something must be done.

If we give Dr. Jennings and SUF credit for the run-up two years ago to the $20 level, what conclusion are we forced to now?

Just my thoughts,

Confluence



To: VAUGHN who wrote (4798)10/27/1999 4:58:00 PM
From: gemsearcher  Respond to of 7235
 
Hello Vaughn.

My thoughts/observations:

1. I appreciate that SUF has seen its hills and its valleys and that share price fluctuations have been somewhat cyclical. What I find very very troubling is that the co's share price is so far out of whack to its underlying proven net asset value and blue sky potential. Cylical fluctuations and peaks and valleys are one thing - a market valuation that is at a 70% discount to NAV without any value being ascribed to , well , you know the list/litany <ggg> is quite another and so far as I can tell , nowhere near to being matched by any other company in this sector. What this suggests of course is that the market has significant doubt concerning SUF's ability to realize the intrinsic value of its assets for the benefit of its future growth. It also suggests , as CIBC World Capital Markets unabashedly and bluntly alluded to in its September 3 review of the diamond sector , that SUF is susceptible to "corporate attentions". Let me be similarly blunt: I don't want $6 for my SUF shares - I believe they are intrinsically worth a hell of a lot more than that today. But $6 would represent a very healthy premium to the recent share price performance and if 2/3 of my fellow shareholders tendered into a $6 bid , I could be forced under Cdn. law to tender my shares for that price. Now as I think you know I am a reasonably happy-go-lucky-don't- sweat- the -small- stuff kinda guy , but that eventuality would really piss me off ;-0.

2. I fully endorse an aggressive exploration programme. I have some difficulty with $40 + million bulk sample tests in a war zone with no assurance of an economic deposit at this stage of the co's growth when those same funds could have been employed in any # of other places.

3.I don't care whether you own shares in SUF's JV partners. If you do , I hope you make $. You are a welcome and informed contributor to this thread. I have no ulterior motive harping about share price other than wanting a higher #%@&* share price and avoiding a scenario where I get really pissed off (see 1. above). There are no grassy knolls on this thread so far as I am aware.

4. Your info about CJ being "ousted" is certainly news to me ; I am sure it will be an even bigger surprise to him! CJ told me in March that he really wanted to step down and focus on exploration. He told me the day after the announcement that it was a "good day" and that bhe was looking forward to getting back to what he enjoyed most - looking for and finding diamonds. Again , no grassy knolls. In any event , it became pretty apparent that analysts and the institutional shareholders that listen to those analysts - some of whom had been urging CJ to get a new CEO for 2 years - had lost confidence in CJ's ability to both jobs - find the diamonds and manage the company - at the same time.

Best Regards.



To: VAUGHN who wrote (4798)10/27/1999 5:07:00 PM
From: Brian MacDonald  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 7235
 
Good post Vaughn.

Chris has done a remarkable job and I cannot understand what people are bitching about. How many mining companies these days (and even before) can hope to do what SUF has done - and in the time it has been done? Just - unbelievable. They see a good ore-body and the next thing you know they are getting cashflow from it.

I've owned lots of mining stocks over the years and this management team is one of the best that I've come across. As far as I'm concerned, Chris is not the source of the problem. He's done everything he could to this point. Right now the stock has got to be a bargain. If one views it like I do, then do something about it - buy more.

Hey, it's not like they haven't done anything, or that SUF doesn't have any money or cashflow. These guys have been busier than a cat covering four piles. This market will turn and when it does, SUF shareholders will benefit from it.

Brian