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To: MikeH who wrote (4740)	10/29/1999 8:17:00 PM
From: C Kahn	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6418

MikeH, if you would like to have a discussion about the role of women in the past few generations in connection with your wife, how about letting her post a message of her own? Unless, of course, she is too busy working, doing household chores and minding children, while you discuss great theories on the Internet.

To: MikeH who wrote (4740)	10/30/1999 3:03:00 AM
From: Merritt	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 6418

MikeH: <<Human nature being what it is, I'd say that there has been no change in real crime in the last 100 years.>> That's nice Mike, but it's an opinion, which judged by the content of the note I responded to, is (IMHO <g>) based on a predisposition. <<and drugs have created a whole new class of crime that didn't exist before Reefer Madness.>> Mike, I've had personal experiences that tell me pot was in common usage during the 30s among the working (or wanting to work) class. I had my first toke in 1953, at age 14, given to me by a guy I worked with who had been using it to ease his arthritis pain since the early 30s. Why do you think Reefer Madness was made, if it wasn't to combat what was perceived to be a problem. Around the turn of the century Coke had coke in it. Earlier, tincture of laudanum (opium) was a commonly prescribed drug, and often caused addiction. In the second half of the 1800s opium dens were commonplace in cities and towns that had Chinese communities. There's always been crime, there's always been substances used and abused by people wishing to feel better, and I imagine there always will be crime and drugs...but the nature and extent has changed dramatically. In S.F. during the 50s, there was an average of about 50-60 murders a year. The population figures of that time were equivalent with today, however now there're usually about 150-200 a year. In 1954 there was a gang fight near S.F. Civic Center in which one person was shot and killed by someone using a "zip gun." It was carried on the front page of the newspapers for weeks, because it shocked the City. Times have definitely changed...as have attitudes.