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To: alan w who wrote (1358)	10/30/1999 2:29:00 AM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4775

Alan your so close it's killing me to see you struggle.. but I did. RE>>Obviously, He could save everyone if He so willed.<< This is so true... God can change anyone or anything if He choses. He did not however.. and this is so hard to accept being men.. we make salvation The only manner in which He glorifies Himself. God was glorified in Moses and in Pharoah but in VERY DIFFERENT WAYS ! Look what Paul says : Romans 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: He starts off trying to tell people that it is not because He does not CARE ! Indeed he swears as God is his witness that he could wish himself to be NOT CHOSEN than to see his beloved Jewish brothers according to the flesh damned ! He loves them deeply according to the flesh but ...... Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel: There are different kinds of Election.. Just because you are Elect according to the General Election of Israel as THE Nation you may not be Elect according to the Specific and individual Election found in personal salvation ! Please read Romans 9 very carefully.. RE>> the heart hears the call; and by free will, the brain asks Christ for forgiveness << Where do the heart,will and brain exist...is it not in the FLESH : Romans 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God. and again Alan: Romans 7:18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not. And again concerning the brain: Romans 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. Nobody in the flesh can "accept" Jesus as a good work ! RE>>At that point, Jesus Christ saves us<< No... if you are "accepting" Jesus it is because He is already saving you. Remember in the flesh dwells no good thing therefore...If you HEAR it is because God has changed your hearing ALREADY Ezekiel 36:26 A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh. God starts saving you before you even know it. Indeed most people I know who are true sheep and born of the Spirit will admit that they did not find God but that He found them... That AFTER they were saved they could see God doing the WORK IN THEM Jesus healed Ten Lepers - how many came back and thanked HIM Jesus saved you why do you seek to take the glory to yourself ! God's truth is like medicine .. It tastes awful but it will heal you !