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To: Alan Markoff who wrote (1605)	11/2/1999 7:38:00 PM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4775

Different views of the Fall View 1. God had no idea Adam would actually sin and did not know where he was until He came back to the Garden. God then planned The Death of Jesus on the Cross ! God's prophecies are so general that they are based on the highest probability of what will likely occur under certain circumstances. God did not want anyone to go to Hell...it was a shock really ! :-} View 2. God can "SEE" into the Future like the fellow on TV who get's tomorrows newspaper. God knows that if He "tries" he Might be able to change what He has already seen by changing some situations. He knew He would have to send His Son as one of those attempts but It's real effect is based in what Men freely do with the things God tries. This is God's best effort to get His son a Bride and He is sorry that so many people have to go to hell, but Hey. We have to trust that this is the best God can do ! God is real sorry people are going to Hell.. He can forsee it but He still made Adam and Eve anyways ! View 3. God the Father made an Eternal Covenant with His Son to give unto Him all those whose names He wrote in the Lamb's Book of LIFE ! God intends to Glorify Himself in the Vessels of Mercy by His Mercy but He also intends to Glorify Himself in His righteous Wrath and Judgement on the Vessels of Wrath ( Romans 9 )Those chosen for Mercy were written in the Book before God created or foresaw anything. Jesus agreed to go to earth and die as the PERFECT KINSMEN REDEEMER. This covenant was of Grace and made between Father and SON. All things are ORDERED even the hairs on our heads ! All things even the devil and his angels work together for our good. The Father Promised the SON a BRIDE ! The bride has no real say in the marriage ! It is an arranged wedding. Indeed PREDESTINATED ! She is very happy about it though ! Over-Joyed as She gets to know Him ! Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified. 31 ¶ What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us? Who can be against US - NO ONE EXCEPT OURSELVES ??? John 10:28 And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand. No man can pluck US - NO ONE EXCEPT OURSELVES ??? Let me tell you a little something Nancy... if any of my Salvation depends on me... I aint gonna make it .........