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To: Yaacov who wrote (15186)	11/6/1999 4:34:00 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

all means the obvious-reassertion of Russian Interests via re-militarisation and subjugation by former republics through subversion and economic policies.....Russians would welcome Strong regime with open arms amid massive nationalistic propaganda campaign scapegoating West, US and anti-Russian forces workng to destroy and starve great mother Russia....very scary indeed.... But people like you and Al Gore cheering stupid policies toward Russia are in big part responsible...<ggg>

To: Yaacov who wrote (15186)	11/6/1999 4:58:00 PM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

Russia has said that Georgia would not cooperate over the request and Prime Minister Vladimir Putin threatened to demand visas from Georgians to travel to Russia. Most of the former Soviet nations, apart from the Baltic states, currently enjoy visa-free travel to Russia. Relations between Georgia and Russia have often been frosty since the fall of the Soviet Union and Georgians blame Moscow for supporting rebels in their breakaway Abkhazia province. go.com

To: Yaacov who wrote (15186)	11/7/1999 9:41:00 AM
From: goldsnow	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 17770

November 7 1917: In Russia, Vladimir Ilyich Lenin and Leon Trotsky oust Kerensky and take over the government. PS How is celebration of local communists going? <ggg>

To: Yaacov who wrote (15186)	11/7/1999 11:00:00 AM
From: goldsnow	Respond to of 17770

Don't stop us, generals tell Kremlin as Chechnya burns By Marcus Warren in Sleptsovskaya RUSSIA'S generals have warned the Kremlin that it faces a civil war if it tries to curb brutality reminiscent of the Stalin era in the breakaway republic of Chechnya. Determined to avenge the army's humiliating defeat in 1994-96, the generals have sanctioned the bombing of villages and towns, refugees and even aid convoys without regard for the loss of human life or misery caused. No one, least of all the prime minister, Vladimir Putin, now leading the polls thanks to popular support for the conflict, dares challenge the generals as they charge headlong towards what they hope will be a crushing victory with medals for all. Just in case anyone questions their logic, Gen Vladimir Shamanov, Commander of the Western Front, warned that political interference in the campaign could bring Russia "to the brink of civil war". In other words, the armed forces which opened this war with "surgical strikes" against "terrorist bases", then went on to set up a "security zone" inside the rebel republic and now aim to control all Chechnya, will decide for themselves when victory is theirs. With the politicians' apparent blessing, the top brass are not just choosing how to fight the war, they also insist on defining its aims and how it should end - with appalling consequences for the refugees pouring past this checkpoint. The traffic is moving again through Caucasus-1, the only exit for the tens of thousands of civilians fleeing Russia's military offensive. After waiting on the other side of the border in unspeakable conditions for days, many weep on arrival. Trapped in a huge crush of people without food, water or shelter, some, like the Ibragimov family of Samashki, had turned back and driven home only to be shelled again in their own village. At last they were out, almost speechless with fatigue. There are more than 200,000 refugees. Among them the 10 members of the Umayev family huddle to keep warm in one of the tents provided, the only light coming from a lamp made out of wads of cotton wool soaked in sunflower oil. The shortage of food is the refugees' main concern. Tabarik Umayev, who spends all day at the border hoping to see relatives on the buses reaching Ingushetia, said: "I don't know which is better: to stay here and starve to death or go back to Grozny and be bombed." A tour of army positions defending Russian territory from any Chechen counter-attack revealed a picture that was not much better than the misery of the camps. One colonel admitted being short of everything except for bullets. Another officer put a brave face on his conscripts' plight. "They're getting some battle experience," he said, as one boy soldier emerged from a bunker to wade through the mud in flip-flops. That these teenagers have not been thrown into combat as cannon-fodder represents big progress on the 1994-6 war when in the storming of Grozny, an entire brigade of such boys was wiped out in just over two days. The officer, Gen Anatoly Kvashnin, who commanded that operation, is now chief of the general staff and believed to be the leading "hawk" seeking revenge for the humiliation visited on the army. A favourite of President Yeltsin, Gen Kvashnin was also the mastermind of the dash to beat Nato to Pristina airport in June. In this war the military's bullying of the political leadership is almost a daily event, at its most spectacular in the devastating missile strike on Grozny market timed to coincide with Mr Putin's arrival in Helsinki to meet Russia's creditors in the European Union two weeks ago. To step up the pressure, Gen Kvashnin and Marshal Igor Sergeyev, the defence minister, issued an unprecedented statement yesterday dismissing as "lies, slander and misinformation" reports of a split between the military and the politicians. "Any attempts to cause a confrontation between the state and military leadership are bound to fail," they said. Typically, the Kremlin saw no need to comment on a statement that two military officers had issued on behalf of their commander-in-chief, the president, and touching directly on his authority. telegraph.co.uk