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To: Barry Grossman who wrote (91818)	11/6/1999 7:25:00 PM
From: jmac	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 186894

You're right. There is a lot wrong with the logic in the Findings of Fact. Didn't you know that the consumer would have been better off if Netscape made those millions of dollars selling its browser rather than many of us getting Microsoft's for free?

To: Barry Grossman who wrote (91818)	11/6/1999 8:30:00 PM
From: Tony Viola	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 186894

Barry, Seeing Reno & Klein and the rest of their team cheering the judge's findings of fact made me wonder where reason has gone. About made me ill. Tony

To: Barry Grossman who wrote (91818)	11/7/1999 2:59:00 AM
From: Sonny McWilliams	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Barry. That reminds me when we used to discuss the breakup of T. gg. Yes. You are so right about Judge Jackson. He was appointed by Ronald Reagan. I hope he does not suffer from the same symptoms as our past President. "it can thwart some and delay others by improving its own products". I thought that was the whole idea of updating the windows. I can't imagine anyone saying that you innovate too much. Bill Gates said that he goes away for long weekends to think and that he writes himself a lot of memos on those occasions on how to innovate and to think about what his competitors are doing. I believe that's what those Judges and Lawyers ought to do. Go away and think. About Reno and Klein. I had mentioned somewhere in one of my posts how good they looked together. All Happy Face. gg. Sonny

To: Barry Grossman who wrote (91818)	11/7/1999 9:03:00 AM
From: Amy J	Respond to of 186894

RE: "Judge Jackson wrote that while Microsoft may not be able to stop all innovation, ''it can thwart some and delay others by improving its own products to the greater satisfaction of consumers.' Isn't "improving its own products to the greater satisfaction of consumers" a main goal of any company's R&D? Nothing wrong with that. ... The judge ought to go back to school. He needs an education. " Barry Hi Barry, The Findings of Facts actually states: "The fact that Microsoft invests heavily in research and development does not evidence a lack of monopoly power" .... and the judge further argues this particular point and implies that when Microsoft invests in RND, it's a GOOD thing because RND improves "its own products to the greater satisfaction of consumer" I may have misunderstood your post, but to me your post appeared to imply the judge had indicated RND was a BAD thing, which would be incorrect. The judge implied RND was a GOOD thing. As a Microsoft investor, I am particular about accurate information, to help sift through this. Thanks : ) Amy J

To: Barry Grossman who wrote (91818)	11/7/1999 3:53:00 PM
From: Dan3	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 186894

Re: findings of fact made me wonder where reason has gone... Have you ever been involved in the procurement or development and use of computers or software? You certainly give no indication of it - you can't have thought this thing through. OS and mass distribution application costs have stayed absurdly high compared to the drop in hardware costs - and they should have dropped more, not less, due to the relative economies of scale (marginal cost of each additional unit "produced" is near zero). The "cut off their oxygen tactics" are blatant - and long term cause enormous damage to our economy by artificially increasing costs and stifling innovation. It's like needing to bribe someone to get a business permit - and not being permitted to compete if you might put pressure on the sloppy operation run by some official's brother-in-law. Microsoft has used practices typically seen in struggling 3rd world economies. And it's those practices that keep those economies struggling. Dan