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To: Jean M. Gauthier who wrote (22490)	11/7/1999 11:52:00 AM
From: alydar	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Dear Jean: I look forward to the day anyone of my investments (i.e., SUNW) are investigated by the justice department for monopolistic market share; not illegal business practices. If and when this happens to SUNW, it will mean that most of us longs on this thread will be much, much wealthier than we are now. By the way, there is nothing wrong with being a monopoly but there is (i.e., MSFT) when you cross the line and commit criminal business practices. So stop your whining, take your profits and invest in an ethical company. All IMO, Bob.

To: Jean M. Gauthier who wrote (22490)	11/7/1999 11:57:00 AM
From: QwikSand	Respond to of 64865

SUN will rue the day it helped the DOJ, when the DOJ comes after them for things in the future. I have reservations about participating when the dialogue has dropped to this level, but this statement is just sheer nonsense that adds no value to the discussion. If Sun violates the laws, then the government should go after them. That's why we have laws. If Americans don't like their laws, they can elect different representatives to change them. If Americans decide government is doing what it shouldn't do, they can elect a new one. Microsoft has now in effect been found to have violated laws. Therefore they must pay a penalty. The legal system may change their minds, but that is how it stands as of now. An investigation. An accusation. A trial. Evidence. A verdict. Business as usual. The system works. Before making the statement that the DOJ will go after Sun, please state any evidence that Sun has engaged in illegal anticompetitive practices. You can't because there is none. A conservative judge appointed by Reagan, after hearing evidence, found Microsoft guilty of violating the law because they are guilty. If you think a conservative judge is some kind of evil conspirator, where is your evidence to support that? Evidence was brought against Microsoft. Where is the evidence against the judge and the government, in this case, apart from in your empty slogans? There is none. Why not just give it a rest, Jean. Regards, --QwikSand

To: Jean M. Gauthier who wrote (22490)	11/7/1999 3:34:00 PM
From: JC Jaros	Respond to of 64865

canada has lots of problems with over-reaching, omnipresent government. Okay, we're gonna make this all make sense, Jean. If it weren't for the over-reaching omnipresent U.S. government, Microsoft wouldn't be in business. MSFT has lobbied the holy snot out of the federal government (along with Jack Valenti) to do with laws related to copyright, specifically COLLECTING ROYALTIES overseas (or in your case, over the border). MSFT has helped change US law so that the government collects all of that money (EULA) for them, enforcing US Law irrespective of whatever soveriegn country local law exists to the contrary. It's OBSCENE. Either MSFT -or- the US GOVT in dealing with each other made a deal with the devil. Whatever. In having the US extend it's IP law, not only just way out beyond the constitution, but way out beyond our borders and then insist with such increasing vociferous volume that the 'M$ Tax' be collected FROM the taxpayer BY the taxpayer FOR the M$ shareholder... Uh... hello? So, you see, M$ has it coming. They may be protesting loudly and putting on some Ruby Ridge re-enactment, but the reality is that this was a big business using the US Govt in a way that all the welfare cheats in the country couldn't begin to collectively approach (or understand). This company (MSFT) has this (and much more) coming to it. Here Jean, watch my fingers; (walking across the monitor screen from left to right). That's hundreds of billions of dollars of market capitalization walking away from MSFT (and hopfully into SUNW). justsendusthemoney.com -JCJ

To: Jean M. Gauthier who wrote (22490)	11/7/1999 6:06:00 PM
From: jim kelley	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 64865

SUNW has a large contingent of lawyers working at HQ whose job it is to lobby for changes to the federal, state and local laws to make it easier for them to do their business. SUNW management has no interest in ethics per se. But would not want to appear publicly unethical. SUNW merely wants to win anyway that it can. While SUNW's position in the market place is vastly different than INTC or MSFT, it is certainly not more ethical or legal in its business practices than the other companies. It does not publish its business practices only its policies which it really does not follow with any fervor. JMO :)