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To: Badkarma who wrote (1811)11/8/1999 7:42:00 PM
From: Berry Picker  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 4775
 
Well to start....

Do you believe there is a gOD at all?

Second do you believe that if He did not predestinate men , that He could at least see far enough or think hard enough into the future to understand (prior to making man)that many would end up in HELL ?
Especially after witnessing Lucifer fall and take 2/3 of the angels with him ?

If your concept of gOD could see far enough into the future and still create the men anyway are you further ahead somehow than what I am saying as far as justifying the actions in our frail and human minds ?

=== WE ARE TALKING ABOUT GOD CREATOR ======
======= OF HEAVEN AND EARTH HERE ! ========


RE>>create the human race,see into the future, give us the mind we have, the desires we have, the consciousness we have, all that makes us up to be what we are, would then toss us into hell for being what he created us to be.<<

First you make it sound like it was a lot of Work for GOD to create us when you say.. give us a mind , consciousness, desires, .. HOw about an eternal soul. All men are given an eternal soul that will live forever... The question is WHERE !

The realm you are entering into with these kinds of questions is not given to man ! As it is written:

Deuteronomy 29:29 The secret things belong unto the LORD our God: but those things which are revealed belong unto us and to our children for ever, that we may do all the words of this law.

You are asking questions that are in the secret will of God.. we do not know WHY God does not save everyone but we can see all around us that HE DOES NOT !

We do not know why He saves or LOVES anyone..why should not God just send everyone to HELL !

But God in Mercy sent His only begotten son as it is written:

John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Is this believing mere mental accent ? No it is also written:

Matthew 7:21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

Are you asking me to enter into a round of Human Mental Speculation when God has revealed all that he wants us to know in the Holy Bible ?

O.K. why not...

Can there be Light without Darkness ??

There will be in Heaven ??

Can there be Good without Evil ??

There will be in Heaven ??

Ahhh that's enough of that playing with the wisdom of man ....

God has plainly revealed that HE is LOVE...
God has plainly revealed that HE is RIGHTEOUS...
God has plainly revealed that He hates Sin and is HOLY ...
God has plainly revealed Himself to some and not to others.

RE>>How DO YOU, a human being, justify such nonsense?<<

=== Did you want me to ask WHY ??? ===

The Bible says that is not our place ...

Romans 9:19 Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will?
20 Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it, Why hast thou made me thus?

RE>>God hates us?<<

Who is Us in that question ?

Do you mean you as a person with an eternal soul ?

I don't know.. You may be here to HEAR !

You may be here to be hardened...

I do not know... I have never and will never look into The Lamb's Book of Life. I am not worthy even as also another of the books.

REV 5:4 And I wept much, because no man was found worthy to open and to read the book, neither to look thereon.
5 And one of the elders saith unto me, Weep not: behold, the Lion of the tribe of Juda, the Root of David, hath prevailed to open the book, and to loose the seven seals thereof.
6 ¶ And I beheld, and, lo, in the midst of the throne and of the four beasts, and in the midst of the elders, stood a Lamb as it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God sent forth into all the earth.
7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.
8 And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
9 And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;

All who cannot sing that song are those who are not loved of God .

I do not wish Hell on you. I would that you REPENT and SEEK GOD.

However if you do not repent neither will I weep for you from heaven...

Revelation 7:17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.