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To: paul who wrote (22748)	11/10/1999 11:29:00 PM
From: Stormweaver	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

Paul, iPaq is Win98/NT based and eventually Win 2000 based. Let's not mistake smaller desktop footprint for thin client! The iPaq's will be running PIII 500'S with GB's of disk space ... hardly thin! Go do some recon on them. Cheers James

To: paul who wrote (22748)	11/11/1999 10:19:00 AM
From: Stormweaver	Respond to of 64865

If 50% of wintel machines are getting thinner no one is going to write fat software anymore Paul, forgot to respond to this point. Even though I am a contrarian here I do like Java; the language that is supposed to liberate thin clients (or at least resurrect them from their Xterminal ancestors). That being said I hate to be the one to break it to you but any rich Java based UI apps I've seen are complete CPU and memory pigs! As a reference subscribe to the developers mailing list for Netbeans (recent Sun acquisition) and hear the moans and groans about the performance of the Netbeans developer tool on high end PC's. As a result we just need more powerful PC's to run the good Java apps that will no doubt be rolling out over the next year or two. I think most people have discounted the ongoing need for desktop power. As hardware advances the software that runs on it can then spend additional resources (CPU cycles,memory etc) providing a better interface or simply doing more things. In Java's case we exchanged some of those gained CPU cycles for portability - the time was right for it. Cheers James