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To: valueminded who wrote (70392)11/11/1999 2:40:00 PM
From: Tim McCormick  Respond to of 132070
 
Inflation
Inverted yield curve
Debt implosion
Depression
SOX-150



To: valueminded who wrote (70392)11/11/1999 3:34:00 PM
From: Knighty Tin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 132070
 
Chris, First, the great majority of the stocks on which I have bought puts over the past 4 years are MUCH lower than they were when I bought them. If fact, MOST stocks, even tech stocks, are down since 1997. Yes, there is a sizeable minority that gets all of the attention, but I would claim that making money on tech stock puts has been like shooting fish in a barrel. Just a few names that are dead meat. Yes, some have come back a little bit, but most are still way under water from where I started buying puts. Look at the long term charts on these names: Picturetel, C-Cube,
Western Digital, ReadRite, Hutchison Tech, Autodesk, Coms, Compaq, Newbridge Networks, Shiva, MUEI, and on and on. I've had so many huge winners in the tech area that have gone down and stayed down that I can't even remember half of the names. And some of my biggest winners have been multiple dips: Presstek until it croaked, Picturetel was my ultimate multiple dip play until it finally went away completely, all the SRAM stocks, all the graphics chip stocks, MU, which you mentioned, Adobe, Rambus, Intel, Dell, etc. True, they are up now, but I made big money and am getting ready to play some of them again.

True, there are a dozen tech stocks, not counting the internuts, which have done well in this mania. They are tough nuts to crack and I haven't had much luck with MSFT, Cisco, or Lucent. However, I am absolutely convinced that these stocks will be among the biggest winners when all is tallied up.

Now, the tech bulls always mention these dozen stocks, along with the several dozen multiple dip stocks that are on a bounce currently as proof that they are real cos. Nonsense. This is great fishing ground for bears, even at the tip top of the most manic market in history. Yes, if you played the Gorilla Game perfectly and didn't detour into the hundreds of stocks that looked dominant for a little while, you are ahead of the game and deserve congratulations. However, I should mention that almost nobody did so, not even the authors of that particular strategy. That's because gorillas are easy to pick after they get toppy, not before.

That doesn't mean we can ignore other areas. After all, the Greenspan recklessness will hit many other areas and many of those stocks are way overpriced, some more overpriced than the big techies.

The catalysts for the general collapse are many, but I want to state that we don't need a general collapse of the dozen big names to make lots of money on the downside. It is nice if we get the BK, but my best year ever buying puts was in 1996, and that was a crazy up year for tech stocks. But the catalysts are everywhere: higher rates, weaker dollar, lousy eps (even in the faked reports), no growth, no demand, no margins, huge debt overload throughout the economy. So, what you are looking for is not catalysts. You are looking for the last catalytic converter that breaks the camels back, and I say we step on that hump when we get to it. <g>



To: valueminded who wrote (70392)11/11/1999 4:55:00 PM
From: Earlie  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 132070
 
Chris:

Extremely well put and very accurate. In fact, your comments are very similar to what I hear from FMs almost on a weekly basis.

The bears do indeed have a basic problem. Until say three years ago, one could pinpoint a company moving towards future reduced earnings (or worse) through solid fundamental homework, lay on an appropriate short position and then wait patiently for the garroting of the share price that inevitably followed the negative revelations. Not so now. We are well ensconced in a full blown mania in which few care about earnings and everybody is a chartist or momentum player. Making things worse, the SEC ignores the worst accounting legerdemain seen in this century while the analytical crowd successfully deploy their "next year, all will be well" nonsense. No wonder the sheep dutifully scramble up the abattoir entry ramp.

Still, the market is throwing off a veritable shower of worrisome signals. It has "narrowed" to a small coterie of big cap stocks which maintain the indexes (most junior and intermediate stocks have been "cratered"), the advance-decline has been in linear descent for well over a year, the long bond yields have been in ascent, the American dollar has finally begun to feel the effects of an insane trade/current account deficit, gold is irresolutely ascending, and treasury selling around the world is accelerating. This last point effectively prevents Greenspan from mounting a rescue attempt such as he pulled off last year (I look for rates to continue to push upward, in the process continuing to siphon money from the markets as well as throttling what little ability good corporations still possess to make a profit).

What will act as the trigger? I don't know. I do know the the poop is truly going to smear the prop blades after Christmas in the tech sector. Since this is where much of the mad money is dug in, the damage that will be felt once the exodus commences, will be consequential.

There are obviously several ways to interact with this mania, including joining the party with a view to somehow exiting at the appropriate time. The vast majority historically can't manage that, hence they get drowned when the lights are turned out. From my perspective, the market today is a much safer place for the shorts today than it was a year ago, because finally, the markets are starting to really punish most stocks that disappoint.

Hunting down the wounded is much more profitable than shooting at those that are still strong and the selection of targets is growing. (g)

Best, Earlie