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To: tonto who wrote (24315)11/12/1999 5:53:00 PM
From: Janice Shell  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 26163
 
Well we probably shouldn't talk about our Nefarious Network right here online, in the public view and everything. Whaddaya say? Has Pugs got six months, or only three, before he's committed forever?

Meanwhile, Lorry Lokey shoots his mouth off, uh-oh:

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To: tonto who wrote (24315)11/12/1999 5:55:00 PM
From: tonto  Respond to of 26163
 
Ray, you may find the Heritage information on the RMIL thread. I don't recall which year I posted it in, it has been a long time.

As for the reasons why I posted on the RMIL thread. I believe my post and the one by the SEC explains it very well.

Pugs babbles on about stock deals...<ggg> What he mentions is irrelevant to investors at the time. The problem was that the company was bogus as were their releases and we proved it...while Pugs tried to convince others that everything was great at the company and it was all about Mork and his 98,500 short. ROFL!

By: Pugs
Reply To: 2511 by ray_s Friday, 12 Nov 1999 at 3:07 PM EST
Post # of 2517


No. I have every share I ever bought. But I've learned alot.
Zapara, of Alexis Intl., with Morgan & Breton staged a phoney Reg S deal. THe offshore sight was "Heritage". If you goo to know-X, you'll find over 25 lawsuits and 8 judgements against Zapara. You'll find there that "Heritage " is in Calif., not the Bahamas.
Morgan, Breton & Zapara did a reverse split to hide the phoney Reg S.
Mork was shorting RMIL out of Pacific International anf Mike Patterson. ( Patterson was arrested for US stock manipulation). Zapara dumped, as did Tod Pauly . Mork found himself short. He, to this day needs RMIL certs to get his money out of the PI account. That is why Everen broker Mike Kugler was soliciting RMIL longs for stock, offering affadavits from Mork and the use of his condo and why tonto, Tod Pauly, was refering shareholders to Patterson and rallying shareholders into Morks suit against Breton & Morgan. The case was thrown out and Mork was sanctioned by the court.
You might want to contact Mork, he needs certs and you want to sell.

Pugs

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By: Pugs
Reply To: 2516 by ray_s Friday, 12 Nov 1999 at 3:23 PM EST
Post # of 2517


You can ask Riley himself, but shareholders were turning them in en masse to get an accounting of them at dlj direct. I believe Riley tried everything, but we were doomed because Zapara conspired with Morgan & Breton. Back then , we were newbies and didn't even know what a DTC report is.
I have assisted attorneys and the authorities in the AZNT matter. Zapara stold stock there as well, was sued and defaulted. Kugler & Tod Pauly, as well as s martin, also continued their smear tactics. Why? Mork was shorting AZNT as well through Patterson & Zapara stold 410k shares.
Business as usual on the OTC !

Pugs

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To: Pugs who wrote (29961)
From: tonto Tuesday, Dec 23 1997 4:30PM ET
Reply # of 55026

Pugs, RMIL through their pr releases has lied to the investing community regarding ownership of 3 factories, that alone is very serious, and done many times. When you add the Pilar del Caribe refurbishing story, the lack of notification regarding being evicted from a factory in Nicaragua,... the company established a pattern of deceit.
It lied to not only the public, but to its owners too. These are not little white lies. What more regarding their relationship with their auditors, for example, have they not told you about that would affect
the release of the audited financials within the next few days so that the halt can be lifted during its present suspension?

Are you sure you really know this company, and if so, would you tell me what RMIL actually is?


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To: s martin who wrote (29528)
From: Arcane Lore Monday, Dec 22 1997 9:20PM ET
Reply # of 55026

smartin:
Not only better DD, but Michael Kugler is also apparently a better psychic than that other fellow. Recall this message:
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To: John Gault (16769 )
From: michael d kugler Tuesday, Nov 11 1997 7:36PM EST
Reply # of 29543

I am going to let someone you don't know tell you. If I were a roulette player, I'd bet on 22. Be patient. It will take considerably less time than the financials.
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Message 2699328

Today, 12/22/07, someone we don't know (John Reed Stark) appears to be fulfilling Michael 's prediction.
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To: Pugs who wrote (29093)
From: tonto Monday, Dec 22 1997 11:25AM ET
Reply # of 55026

Pugs, the SEC appears to disagree with you,

SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION
Washington, D.C.
SECURITIES EXCHANGE ACT OF 1934

RELEASE NO. 39471/
December 22, 1997

The Securities and Exchange Commission announced the temporary suspension, pursuant to Section 12(k) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934 (the "Exchange Act"), of over-the-counter trading of the securities of Rocky Mountain International,Ltd. ("RMIL"), a Fort Lauderdale, Florida-based company which holds itself out to be
a garment manufacturer and water bottler, at 9:30 a.m. EST, December 22, 1997 through 11:59 p.m. EST, on January 6, 1998.

The Commission temporarily suspended trading in the securities of RMIL because of questions regarding the accuracy of statements concerning, among other things, the ownership and value of certain assets claimed by RMIL, RMIL's business operations and the merger of RMIL with third parties.

The Commission cautions broker-dealers, shareholders, and prospective purchasers that they should carefully consider the foregoing information along with all other currently available information and any information subsequently issued by the company.

Further, brokers and dealers should be alert to the fact that, pursuant to Rule 15c2-11 under the Exchange Act, at the termination of the trading suspension, no quotation may be entered unless and until they have strictly complied with all of the provisions of the rule. If any broker of dealer has any questions as to whether or not he has complied with the rule, he should not enter any quotation but immediately contact the staff of the Securities and Exchange Commission in Washington, D.C. If any broker or dealer is
uncertain as to what is required by Rule 15c2-11, he should refrain from entering quotations relating to RMIL's securities until such time as he has familiarized himself with the rule and is certain that all of its provisions have been met. If any broker or dealer enters any quotation which is in violation of the rule, the Commission will
consider the need for prompt enforcement action.

If any broker-dealer or other person has any information which may relate to this matter, the Miami, Florida office of the Securities and Exchange Commission should be telephoned at (305) 982-6337.

UNITED STATES OF AMERICA Before the
SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION

ROCKY MOUNTAIN INTERNATIONAL, LTD.
ORDER OF SUSPENSION OF TRADING

File No. 500-1

It appears to the Securities and Exchange Commission that there is a lack of current and accurate information concerning the securities of Rocky Mountain International,
Ltd. ("RMIL"), a Fort Lauderdale, Florida-based company which holds itself out to be a garment manufacturer and water bottler, because of questions regarding the accuracy of statements concerning, among other things, the ownership and value of certain assets claimed by RMIL, RMIL's business operations and the merger of RMIL with third parties.

The Commission is of the opinion that the public interest and the protection of investors require a suspension of trading in the securities of the above-listed company.

Therefore, it is ordered, pursuant to Section 12(k) of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, that trading in the above-listed company is suspended for the period from 9:30 a.m. EST, December 22, 1997 through 11:59 p.m. EST, on January 6, 1998.

By the Commission.

Jonathan G. Katz
Secretary

Pugs, it is time to realistically look at the company. It reported operating plants that were not operating under its name, its flagship vessel was refurbished, it gave specific reasons for its delay in financials, you will learn more about that. I touched on it last week.

Eviction from Nicaragua not mentioned, you were advised but decided it was irrelevant. You have written much about the short position, the professional investigator missed(?) all the easy points which pointed the company to be leading up to a trading halt to as the SEC wrote, PROTECT THE PUBLIC INTERESTS AND THE INVESTOR. You were advised this was their charter several times. Of course they must halt trading.

Riley, shades, joey, and other leaders have some honest explaining to do to this board, as do you. Get the truthful information out. It is to the honest investors advantage.

mtnres booted me off and I stopped posting quietly on the irc channel.
This action most certainly caused some to hold their shares. Many have been irresponsible, it is a hard lesson. Hopefully in the future we will be able to be smarter and do a better job.

Mike Kugler in fact is not a shorter as you have been advised. The "gang" found it useful to ignore this and feed the position that he is one, to distract you from the truth. The personal anomisity that developed here was wrong between all parties, but Mike did an exceptional job along with others of bringing excellent information to this board.

You have been wrong in your position, accept it, learn from it, and learn the truth. Start to learn more about the key players.

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and for those history buffs, who celebrated their first annivesary on that date? (no peeking)

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