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To: forty1 who wrote (51)	11/14/1999 6:20:00 PM
From: Francois Goelo	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 214

THE DEADLY ART OF STOCK MANIPULATION by BASHERS.... The Short & Distort Scheme Stage I: Monitoring In stage I of a Short & Distort scheme Short groups Monitor spikes in volumes on stocks with no rumors. Stage 2: Flagging Shorts Flag stocks that run up then sits back and wait patiently for their time. Stage 3: Preparation The Shorters research the company and develop their Distortion of the rumors to be used later. Stage 4: Actual Shorting The shorts step in selling on every possible up tick. This is the Reverse of front loading. Preparations are made to attack the guy who had earlier written positively about the company and take out, discredit, any new long-term champions or messengers. Stage 5: Distortion Campaign The shorts step in and increase selling on every possible up tick. Just as with the pump, newsletters, e-mail, PR firms against P & D, etc. are simulated. Expertise in the field is recruited for credibility. Any possible twist using POS (Purposely Omitted Syntax) and PAS (Purposely Added Syntax) is conveniently used on every possible angle. If the POS/PAS is discovered then attack the messenger. Above all control the message boards. The group clutters the message boards so no positive information can be readily found. Justification is the Value of the Company in the market. Projections of $0.00 worth and loss projections of 100% Note: The market manipulator will do everything in his/her power to keep buyers OUT OF THE STOCK. Cut your losses is touted to stimulate fear. You bought higher but now they need you to sell lower. Stage 6: Pressure The shorts have taken it too far. The volume is increasing and the price is not effectively dropping. A stalemate occurs. Personal attacks increase. Threats of legal action, SEC involvement, and yes even death threats increase. Increased secret IDs are employed to increase the cluttering, personal attacks and the distortion. So begins a string of lies that run for as long as one's stomach can take it. Desperately playing on the "you have been had" scenario. Any new news will be hit it hard by shorters to kill any interest. Note: Watch the volume not the share price. A market manipulator will have various brokers buying and selling the stock to give the APPEARANCE of increasing volume but the price goes down. Thus stimulating the story the company is selling or an off shore reg S or other convenient scenario. Watch for large blocks that show up but have a MM special code, cross overs, etc. Stage 7: The Cover Without warning the buying pressure is too much and the short begins to cover. Short covering combined with new investors buying into the stock causes the stock to go up. Often the whole thing starts again. Just a vicious cycle sometimes.

To: forty1 who wrote (51)	11/15/1999 1:07:00 PM
From: Francois Goelo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 214

INVT OVERVIEW by ROB-ART on RB... NAME: Invest America, Inc. / Communic Optications Inc. SYMBOL: INVT (OTC-BB) Shares Outstanding: 14,859,148 Float: 3 to 5,000,000 ADDRESS: INVT- 1776 Park Avenue unit 4 - Park City, Utah, 84060 ADDRESS: OPTICA - No. 148-4664 Lougheed Hwy - Burnaby, B.C. V5C 5T5 PHONE: Brian - 801/808-6096 & 435/615-8801 Doug - 604/473-2574 CONTACT PERSON: INVT- Brian Kitts / OPTICA - Doug Smith TRANSFER AGENT: Olde Monmouth at 732-872-2727 October 21, 1999 - InvestAmerica Inc. Announces New Management biz.yahoo.com October 29, 1999 - InvestAmerica Inc. Announces Proposed Reverse Acquisition biz.yahoo.com November 2, 1999 - InvestAmerica, Inc. Elaborates on Recent Announcement biz.yahoo.com November 5, 1999 - InvestAmerica Inc. Announces Details of Agreement biz.yahoo.com November 8, 1999 - InvestAmerica Inc. Announces Office Locations biz.yahoo.com November 11, 1999 - InvestAmerica Inc. Confirms Reverse Acquisition Date biz.yahoo.com INVT-FIBRX ( OPTICA) Brian Kitt's described the following situation: INVT up to now has essentially been a shell. A few months ago, Brian met the owners of FibrX, a privately held fiber optics company, and they came to an agreement to take FibrX public via a reverse merger into INVT. FibrX is involved in two things: (1) the arbitrage of fiber optic cable and (2) the actual sale of time on fiber optic lines. Their business consists in buying fiber by the bundle (12 strands to a bundle) and then reselling the strands for those who can't afford or don't need a full bundle. A bundle is the minimum amount sold by the large companies, so FibrX is meeting a niche demand within the fiber optics industry that few other companies are satisfying. The company is also involved in reselling portions of the strands for companies that don't need a full strand all the time, for instance, to a company that might need to use a fiber line two or three hours a day. According to Brian, it is an extremely lucrative business. Brian is the majority shareholder in INVT, but after the reverse merger FibrX will be. By: chasdog Sunday, 14 Nov 1999 Take a look at the address for ZED Data Systems Corp. loacated at zed.ca You will find that is located next door to the purported offices of Optica Communications Inc. No. 148-4664 Lougheed Hwy. Burnaby, B.C. V5C 5T5 Douglas E. Smith is listed as the President of Zed Data Systems Corp as evidenced by the information in my prior post. I therefore assume he is indeed the Doug Smith in question and not a wild guess on my part. ZED Data Systems is an 18 year old, privately owned Vancouver based company that has sold and installed thousands of switches, hubs, routers and other data communication devices and software. Manufacturers, universities, stock exchanges, large non-profit organizations, and other businesses continue to rely on ZED to supply high-quality, affordable products, top-notch technical support and superior service. So it looks like we have an identifiable individual with a private company who is likely to be knowledgeable about fiber optics. Further conjecture would place him with a new spin-off company ready and likely able to enter the fiber optic business. ragingbull.com