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To: Zoltan! who wrote (62956)	11/13/1999 1:51:00 PM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 108807

Interesting facts, and I am certainly no fan of Gore, but I don't see anything you quoted that makes it look like he said he was in combat. Walking the perimeter of a position with a gun isn't anything like combat, and being shot at by snipers or whatever, also isn't combat, at least as I'd define it. Flying on a helicopter over enemy territory, similarly, isn't necessarily combat. Was there something you left out? Also, I don't believe any of the other candidates (except McCain) can point to more valorous service, not George W., nor Forbes, nor Bradley, nor even Buchanan. For all the publicity it generated, and all the angst it caused the national psyche, I don't believe that a large percentage of American men served in the VietNam War. Student deferrals were given out liberally. Edit: 2.59 million Americans served in VietNam during the entire conflict, stationed there for a year. Not sure what number was there in any given year, but the war started in 1961, under Kennedy, and ended under Nixon, American troups were withdrawn in 1973. In any given year, not that many people served. I was born in 1952, I know a lot of people who were in the military at that time, drafted AND enlisted, but I don't know, personally, anyone who saw combat in VietNam. >>>>>The average infantryman in the South Pacific during World War II saw about 40 days of combat in four years. The average infantryman in Vietnam saw about 240 days of combat in one year thanks to the mobility of the helicopter. One out of every 10 Americans who served in Vietnam was a casualty. 58,169 were killed and 304,000 wounded out of 2.59 million who served. Although the percent who died is similar to other wars, amputations or crippling wounds were 300 percent higher than in World War II. 75,000 Vietnam veterans are severely disabled.<<<<<

To: Zoltan! who wrote (62956)	11/14/1999 1:57:00 AM
From: Michael M	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Glad I was wandering by when your Gore report was on the screen. The guy's a big league phony. As for other candidates, I'm not the biggest W fan but think he's gotten a bum rap on the Guard service. If W was trying to avoid exposure to danger, he could have found a better way than flying a single engine, single seat, high-performance military aircraft. A disturbing number of people in this occupation become part of the smoking hole in the ground in news stories that end with the words, "routine training flight." Mike zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz