Do not drink while reading the following post by Pugsie or you will need to clean your keyboard. LOLOL
As I posted before, we posted on the RMIL thread that the company was bogus and non-operating, it did not have the $10,000,000 that Pugs said they did, it had been evicted from their plant in Nicaragua, the plant in Hialeah was closed, the plant in the Dominican Republic was producing shirts for Danny, not RMIL as they were in default, the share count was wrong, the reg s deal was domestic <ggg> and their flagship was sitting on the bottom of the bay In Kingston...and of course the SEC halt. But Gary Dobry says
he only figured it out much later? Ahahahahahahaha...nobody can be that stupid.
The coward is running to the corner and dodging naming the crimes he has posted we have committed...
The decision by mangements to work with Zapara of course reflects upon them...but what really mattered to the shareholders was did they have a business or not. We advised the company did not and Pugs screamed for months after the halt that this was part of their plan to rule the shorts...lol Fundamentals Pugsie, fundamentals...
By: Pugs
Reply To: 2518 by Chest Saturday, 13 Nov 1999 at 12:40 PM EST
Post # of 2520
Chest,
No, I never sent my stock into DLJ, because at the time, I was still niave enough to believe that RMIL was being honest with shareholders. It wasn't until some of the same individuals responsible for the AZNT attack were sued by AZNT, a real company, that we were able to find out what goes on on the OTC. (SURE...<S>)
How could Riley, a shareholder know about a bougus RegS placement / scam by Zapara , Morgan & Breton that took place long before any of us were involved in RMIL.
There are two kinds of companies on the OTC, companies set-up just to make the guys setting it up rich from issuing themselves stock, promoting it, dumping and handing it over to professional shorts..leaving newbies and mooch's ( which we were in RMIL ) or real companies that they infiltrate, steal stock, short it and then attempt to crush the company ( look at AZNT).
Riley, doing his best to get an accurate accounting, felt, with others, if all shareholders opened DLJ accounts, there would be an accurate count of shares and a force of any short, if one existed.
Remember, Mork shorted RMIL thru Mike Patterson, arrested for US stock manipulation, at PI. Tod Pauly, tonto and Everen broker Mike Kugler were soliciting stock for Mork's short and refering shareholders to Mike Patterson. Mork sued Breton & Morgan, but let Zapara off the hook, why? Tod Pauly rallied shareholders to piggy-back on Morks case. To this day, Mork needs certs to get his money out of the PI account.
Ya see, the Janice Shells, and others in Ted Dennis's FBNA group work in concert with boiler rooms, WellRich, etc., promoters and professional shorts to rip off the public and target shareholders as responsible for newbie & mooch losses. I lost, you lost, Riley lost...Tod Pauly dumped, after pump & dumping it;
>
> To: +Ga Bard (2699 )
> From: +tonto Thursday, Sep 4 1997 12:47PM ET
> Reply # of 8820
>
> I bought at market. 25,000 shares were at .032 and after not getting any
> more filled, I filled the order at market. Big deal .006 and .007
> more.
>
> If you believe the group here have legs, it may be a good idea to get
> your shares now and not worry too much about the little difference.
> The movement is meaningless at this point.
>
> It is very positive, but we want OVIS movement. Look what can happen
> when a group jumps in, .18 to $3.90 in a couple of weeks or so. Now you
> are talking profit
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What was Riley doing you ask?
> Date: 98-11-02 12:59:11 EST
> From: Riley.G@psicop.com (Riley G)
> To: newyork@fbi.gov (newyork@fbi.gov), cyberfraud@nasaa.org, senforce@aol.com,
> enforcement@sec.gov, ovisusa@aol.com
>
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> ATTN: XXXXXXXX, NYC FBI
> ATTN: XXXXXXX, SEC Miami Office
> ATTN: RMIL BOD's
>
> Here you have a known naysayer by the name of TONTO (D Todd Pauly) claiming
> that he has direct knowledge of a market maker that is naked short some
> 300,000
> shares in RMIL. You also see that he claims the shorts and other nays consider
> me a HUGE CONCERN!
>
> Also note that pacific International Securities is mentioned again! They are
> the same place that Dempsey Mork is suppose to have illegally shorted some
> 100k
> shares of RMIL . The same brokerage house is
> alleged to be short millions of shares of RMIL, but that information can not
> be
> obtained by us regular shareholders.
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Time has come imo, that shareholders stop believing the FBN crap that other shareholders swindled by the Janice Shells, Mike Kuglers and Tod Pauly's are responsible for the corruption on the OTC BB.
I understand your anger, its' misplaced. Riley's is a swindled shareholder and a victim, like we were. If you want to lat blame, go to the SEC, the FBI, like Riley has and assist them is ascertaining the truth.
Berst of luck!
Pugs
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