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To: Harry Landsiedel who wrote (92339)11/13/1999 2:57:00 PM
From: Tony Viola  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 186894
 
Harry, article about Intel rollout at Comdex of Rambus chipsets; PC makers also showing PCs with Rambus inside. Strange timing for Osha before what looks like a positive showing for Intel and allies. Also, Osha making comments about IA64 performance so early in the game, where's he get off with that? What benchmarks has he seen?...Lifted from Rambus thread....

Date: 11/12 19:08 EST

Intel Prepping Release Of i820 Chipset

Nov 12, 1999 (Tech Web - CMP via COMTEX) -- When Intel releases its
long-awaited, much-delayed i820 chipset Monday, it will have the
support of several PC-makers who are planning to use the technology in
their newest PCs. Intel will also be deflecting questions raised today
by a Wall Street analyst who questioned the company's IA-64 strategy
and said its i820 plan is in "disarray."

IBM, Hewlett-Packard, and Compaq are planning full support of the i820
chipset. Sources say that Compaq on Monday will unveil four new
additions to its DeskPro line that incorporate the i820 chipset. Prices
will start at about $2,500 for configurations based on a 600-MHz
Pentium III Coppermine chip, with 128 Mbytes of RDRAM and a 13.5-Gbyte
hard drive. At the same time, IBM will add the i820 chipset as an
option for its PC 300PL desktops and Intellistation E Pro workstations.
Meanwhile, HP will unveil new versions of its Vectra PCs and Kayak
workstations that incorporate the new chipset.

But Merrill Lynch analyst Joe Osha said price-performance issues may
impact the chipset's acceptance. "It's not that there is a problem with
the 820 chipset itself, it's that the memory roadmap is in disarray,"
Osha said in an interview. The i820 chipset utilizes new 133-MHz RDRAM
memory from Rambus, which will sell for up to 40% more than PC 100
SDRAM, according to some estimates. Osha says he thinks this may not
sit well with price-conscious PC buyers in both the corporate and
consumer sectors. "Given the relative performance difference, the cost
that RDRAM is imposing on vendors makes it unlikely that Rambus is
going to end up being a solution for the majority of the market," Osha
said.

As for Intel's forthcoming 64-bit Merced chip, Osha said, "It's not
going to be a failure, but it's not going to be a home run either. In
terms of IA-64 being better than anything anybody's ever seen within
the enterprise, that's not going to happen."

Osha made similar remarks in a report released early today. After the
report's release, Intel's stock slid. By late afternoon, its stock
price was down 3-5/8 to 75-13/16 per share.

Intel declined to respond to Osha's comments. Company spokesman Bill
Kircos says, "We don't respond to comments from a single analyst."

Intel first gave word early last month that the i820 chipset, which
facilitates bus speeds of 133 MHz and thus allows computers to take
full advantage of Coppermine chips, would be delayed because of a
conflict with RDRAM that the company says has now been resolved. The
i820 chipset was originally scheduled to ship to PC makers in October.
Several PC makers, including IBM and Micron, have been shipping 133-MHz
FSB systems using an alternate chipset from Via. However, Intel is
suing Via in federal court in San Jose, Calif., for patent
infringement.



To: Harry Landsiedel who wrote (92339)11/13/1999 4:48:00 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 186894
 
Did you see that "Ipaq" from Compaq's site that costs under $500 (w/out monitor)? Just as a courtesy, here's the link again:

directplus.compaq.com

Man, a Celeron 500, 64 MB DRAM, 4.3 GB hard disk, lettuce tomato on a sesame-seed bun, only $499! Legacy-free, sharp professional styling (more professional than the tootie-frootie iMac), and Windows 2000 (when it becomes available) to top it off!

I think this system will be a hot seller. However, I have to wonder about how much customer support Compaq will be able to provide, given that these systems will be rather low in margin.

Tenchusatsu



To: Harry Landsiedel who wrote (92339)11/13/1999 6:31:00 PM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 186894
 
Harry - Re: "With four models: 2 Celeron ($499-$549) and 2 Pentium III ($799-$849) I don't know where the "increased competition from AMD" that Osha predicts will come from. "

AMD is losing badly in the low end - with an estimated shipment of only 4 million K6x's this quarter (and possibly 1 Million AthWIPES) - based on AMD's recent "guidance".

This 4 million K6x's is DOWN from 5.5 million in Q498 - AMD's "high point".

True, selling 1 million AthWIPEs isn't bad - with higher ASPs than the K6x's - but the AthWIPES seem to be selling IN PLACE OF the K6x's - that is, the AthWIPES are replacing K6x's.

That's good for AMD's bottom line - but NOT GOOD for their market share - which appears to be essentially stagnant, at best.

This STAGNATION was not mentioned by Joe Osha - who apparently was "converted" to the AMD religion by Jerry's "Come To Jesus" analyst presentation.

Paul