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To: monu who wrote (1940)	11/14/1999 4:16:00 PM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4775

I think monu you can fully expect satan and his to be here and to rage and plot against Those who speak God's truth. This is not a church it is open to the public. Paul had to suffer people continually chiding and trying to trap him in his speech just as did Jesus. Acts 16:16 ô And it came to pass, as we went to prayer, a certain damsel possessed with a spirit of divination met us, which brought her masters much gain by soothsaying: 17 The same followed Paul and us, and cried, saying, These men are the servants of the most high God, which shew unto us the way of salvation. 18 And this did she many days. But Paul, being grieved, turned and said to the spirit, I command thee in the name of Jesus Christ to come out of her. And he came out the same hour. satan wants to play games with God's elect... he does not have anything else to do until THE TIME but to try and torment people. I think it would have been very wrong for people to be angry at Paul because of what the demons are doing ! I think your attempt to make the "atmosphere" in here pleasant to the flesh so that people will get saved is admirable but unrealistic. If we are going to preach God's truth in public we can expect the same reaction our brother got in Pauls day... beatings stonings jail - Hatred and rage ! Also I am preaching God's predestination and election.. I will say it plain - only those who the Father Chose will be saved This is the very thing Jesus preached in Luke 4 that cause those who were admiring him at one moment to hate Him the very next: Luke 4:27 And many lepers were in Israel in the time of Eliseus the prophet; and none of them was cleansed, saving Naaman the Syrian. Naaman was chosen of God to be a healed leper the rest were left to rot. NEXT VERSE... 28 And all they in the synagogue, when they heard these things, were filled with wrath, They tried to kill Jesus when he pointed out what I am pointing out... will men treat me better except Christ be in them ? Preaching does what it has always done DIVIDE ! Those who are for God and His truth *FROM* the goats. Psalm 83:12 Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession. 13 O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind. 14 As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire; 15 So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm. 16 Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O LORD. 17 Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish: 18 That men may know that thou, whose name alone is JEHOVAH, art the most high over all the earth. I know how men get to heaven... it has nothing to do with what they think... indeed there thoughts are against them: Ro 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. 2Ti 2:25 In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth; It is God's grace alone..

To: monu who wrote (1940)	11/14/1999 6:03:00 PM
From: truedog	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4775

monu, I agree with what you say, that was what I was looking for when I joined this thread but, Brian changed all that. Since I am sure that, AJ and me, are the two Brian has put on "ignore", I hope you don't mind my making a final point, concerning the feud with Brian, attached to your post. I don't know if you are aware that Brian has, publically, accused AJ of sending a fax to his employer trying to get him fired. A number of posters have asked Brian to prove his allegation but, Brian has clammed up, refused to present proof, and is ignoring us because he has no proof. The scripture quoting, self appointed, chosen one of God, has shown that he has broken the ninth Commandment. " You will not bear false witness against your neighbor." Would a "chosen one" do such a thing, and run and hide? Brian has also attempted to "force into our brains" that only those, chosen by God before birth, will find their way into Heaven. Exodus 20:6;"...but showing loving kindness to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My Commandments." Brian is a fake, and that is the reason I have assailed him as much as I possibly could. TD

To: monu who wrote (1940)	11/14/1999 8:14:00 PM
From: Alan Markoff	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 4775

monu. A big welcome and thank you for this post. I believe that showing the love of Jesus should be the end result of all efforts. We are supposed to "love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your mind, all your soul, and all your strength and the second one like it is this to love your neighbor as yourself. Jesus said upon these 2 things hang all the law and the prophets. That was the entire Bible at the time. The only commandment he added was to love others as he loved us. IMO God deals with each person as an individual and with truth, so we can not judge if they are on the right path or not. I know there are some absolutes with the Bible but they are learned at different stages and I only share what God has taught me. I pray the Lord will bless you with joy and prosperity, Nancy