Silicon Investor (SI) -- The First Internet Community

STOCKTALK

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor. We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community. If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.

Pastimes : Ask God -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: mark silvers who wrote (28178)	11/16/1999 7:05:00 PM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

Your definition is very good and close. You may also see the pitfall in the argument. Let me try it's been a while.. First :The case is presented that since the MIND can conceive of a Supreme and Perfect Being wherein a more Perfect Being could not be conceived of that it is possible that one may actually exist ! Second : Since this being may or may not exists it would certainly be subordinate and less than Perfect compared to a Supreme Being that has the attribute of Necessary Existence in that nothing else could exist apart from this Being Actually and Really existing ! Third : That since the first proposition proves Possible existence that it must follow that the concept of Necessary Existence implies and Actual existence because if a Thing MUST BE IT IS ! Therefore GOD IS Fourth : Since the human mind does have the concept of a more supreme being who must exist and be superior to a being who might exist therefore He Must Exist . Fifth: Infinite and Necessary Existence is the attribute and end of degrees of Perfection and the necessary end of relative, moral, and all other characteristics of quality of existence ! You are using a similar approach with me when you argue against the way I say GOD IS These arguments are wrong. They are the worship of the mind of man and the intellect. They prove nothing ! You believe that if you can conceive of a "HIGHER QUALITY of EXISTENCE" in a proposed God to the one I say does in fact exist then that would prove that bu necessity mine does not exist and I must be wrong or am serving a lesser GOD.. Do you see the holes in the thinking ? Later Third : Since the first premise prove the possibility of existence then the second conception prove the possibility of a necessary being that MUST EXIST ! Isaiah 55:9 For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways, and my thoughts than your thoughts.