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To: O'Hara who wrote (518)1/11/2000 1:16:00 PM
From: O'Hara  Respond to of 609
 
><>...Be NOT deceived...><>

The Rapture Theory...Is it Written?!!...†
ABSOLUTELY NOT!!!

At this point I feel it is necessary to preface this study,in order to make clear why it is so
important to look only into the word of God, and exactly what He has said on the return
of Christ.

There is a very dangerous false doctrine that is being taught,to the Christian church.This
theory of escape has been the teaching of some within the Christian church since about
1850.

An emotionally disturbed young Scottish girl named Margaret McDonald while speaking
in gibberish, had a vision in church one Sunday morning. She initially said of this vision,
that it felt evil.
She told her vision to the pastor, who told another pastor, who told another pastor, and
so on, until finally this vision of hers became doctrine within the Christian church.

This vision in short, by the time it got to the 3rd and 4th parties, years later, was that
only christians were going to be raptured out of this world by Christ, and that rapturing
away, could happen at any moment!

That vision of this young girl became to be known by some in the Christian church as
The rapture theory. This info. can be found in church history.

I should also add at this point that this escape theory is not believed by the vast majority
of Christians. And it is becoming even less popular a doctrine among many. It is just not
able to stand the test of time especially when lined up against the word of God.
Praise God His truth is winning out! As He said it would.

The "rapture theory" as it is taught by some in the Christian church
teaches the following.

That the only way our "All Knowing" and "All
Powerful Father in heaven, God Himself, can protect those who love Him from His
wrath,which is to come upon the world, is to Zap them out of here. The theory teaches
that, "only" Christians are good enough to
be Zapped (raptured), and all others will be left behind to be tortured, maimed, and
murdered.

It also teaches that a political world leader, used by satan will lead this world into a
violent battle against our God.... after the Christians are zapped out... by God!
It also teaches that this world leader will commit his atrocities upon man. They say "he"
(whoever he is,even the rapture theorists cannot agree on this one) will be the antichrist.

This theory teaches that all of these atrocities will be going on while the Christians are
feasting at the wedding banquet with our Lord Jesus.
The rapture theory teaches that this zapping out of here can happen at any moment.!
Another lie from the the enemy of God!!

The rapture theory teaches many more ideas that cannot be shown in scripture.!!!
And in order for the rapture theory to be true the Bible has to be in error.
The Holy Bible is not in error!!!
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To: O'Hara who wrote (518)1/11/2000 1:24:00 PM
From: O'Hara  Respond to of 609
 
><>...One ...LIE....leads to another!!...><>

†...Two process second coming?..It is NOT written

EXCEPT.......in the books of men ?...†

The rapture theory needs a Two Process Second coming to even have a leg to stand
on.!!
There is no such doctrine taught in the word of God!

Some scriptures the "rapture theorists" use to back up their claims of a this "two
process"second coming is:

Then two shall be in the field; the one shall be taken and the other left. Matt. 24:40
They say the one taken is taken by God in the rapture.

However,look back at vs.36-39 see the subject matter, always note the subjuct matter .
Jesus was comparing His second coming, (one process, not two) to the days of Noah.
Those who were "taken" were taken by the flood,(which lasted five months), They were
ones not in the
Ark!... Gen. 7:24...

Those who will be taken in the last days will be the ones deceived
by satan, the antichrist. Those who were not "taken"in the days of Noah, were in the
ark.

It will be no different at the return of our Lord. Today our "ark" is Jesus, the true Jesus,
and HIS word not man's.... There is in-fact, as Jesus taught, going to be another flood.
A flood of lies, a flood of deceit! (Rev. 12:15) This deceitful flood of lies will
also last five months.(Rev. 9;10)

Rapture theorists also use the following choice scriptures to back up their claim of
the..."any moment doctrine"....another lie from satan.

(Luke 12:37-40, Matt.24:36-44, and 1 Thess.5:2. All
scriptures which teach of our Lord returning as a thief,are a warning to those who are no
longer waiting for His return! (Those who will when satan appears disguised as
Jesus. Which Christians are now no longer waiting for His return to earth? Could it
be those who are waiting to be raptured out of here? I submit to you it will be those
who believe that satan is Jesus....the disguise will be unbelievable!! "For if God does not
shorten those days even the very elect will be deceived!!! (The words of Jesus)

(Look at 1 Thess. 5;4) Those who are in darkness will No longer be
waiting for Him because they will believe that He has already returned. They will be
worshipping the false messiah, the wrong Jesus, the antichrist,satan, disguised as Jesus.

They will be doing his work while waiting for him to "rapture" them out of here. He will
be here in his own body (Rev.12:7-12), making peace (Dan. 8:25), and the whole
world will whore after him. (Rev.13:3), all except those who have the seal of God in
their forehead.(Rev. 9:4)

But ye brethren are not in darkness that that day should overtake you as a thief.1Thess
5:4

That day will not overtake those who know the truth, who know the chronological order
of the end times. Who are aware of two facts,
1.that satan comes first as antichrist
And
2. That they will be here when he does come,disguised as Jesus!

Will you be harvested out of season? I pray not, and I pray that your flight not be in
winter.

..blessed are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the paps which never gave
suck. Luke 23:29
Compare those words of our Lord to the following: "Woe unto them who are with
child,and to them that give suck in those days. (Matt. 24:19)

Study also the Parable of the ten virgins, (Matt. 25:1) and compare that teaching of our
Lord to (Luke 23:29) and (Matt.24:19) and look very Carefully at the teachings of Paul
in (2 Cor. 11:2). All of Paul's teachings were with that in mind- To present us Christians
as a chaste virgin, a worthy bride to Christ.... A chaste virgin (spirtually) means a lot
more than some Christians have been taught...But I fear said Paul, that satan
also beguile you. Don't be corrupted. Let no man deceive you.

Note the irony of the ten virgins. They were all virgins,(Christians) who were watching
and waiting for their bridegroom, but then WHAM, something went awry, and half of
those Christians were shut out of heaven.... more specifically the wedding supper of the
Lamb! In short Jesus was teaching that the foolish half ran out of oil(truth).

And what about the "barren" why are the "blessed"? And why "woe" to them that are
with child? ....... The barren are those who did not run out of oil(truth), they were
waiting for the true Messiah, they had not defiled, nor deceived , they did not sleep with
the enemy. They had remained virgins, (spiritually speaking). They kept themselves
for the true bridegroom,
the true Messiah. They had not worshipped the false Christ,the wrong Jesus, the
antichrist, satan disguised as Jesus,. They had remained virgins, they had not been
spiritually impregnated, they were not deceived, not beguiled nor corrupted, (not with
child). Blessed are the barren.!!!!

One must understand that only those who know the truth, and the chronological
order of end time events,( those with the seal of God in their forehead), and still do
worship the antichrist,have sealed their fate to condemnation. All others will certainly not
be worthy to attend the wedding banquet of Our Lord,(THIS INCLUDES THE
RAPTURE THEORY GROUP) but will in-fact be taught the real truth and real
discipline in the millennium Ez 44-48

This is why God our loving Father provided
the 1000 yr. reign of Christ.!... At which time satan will be bound, so that his evil
deceitful ways will not influence them during the teaching (Rev 20:3). At the end of the
millennium satan will then be loosed in order to test and deceive those who he
might.Those who cannot be deceived at this time will in-fact experience the second
ressurection.
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The first resurrection is of those who will not be deceived the first time, while on earth,
and will not worship the antichrist. They are the ones who will attend the Marriage
Supper Of The Lamb. But the rest(Rev 20:5-6) those who did not know the truth
because of false teachings and a variety of other reasons, and who will be deceived
while on earth, and do worship the anti christ, instead of attending the wedding feast,
will have to go through the millennium,being taught the difference between the profane
and the holy, the clean and the unclean (Ez 44 v23)It is this group that did not take part
in the first resurrection, that may, if they are not deceived at the end of the
millennium,take part in the second resurrection.

Those who do not experience the second resurrection at the end of the millennium,
because of being once again deceived by satan when he is loosed, will then at that
time, experience the second death, the death of the soul. (Rev 20:11-15).

THE FIRST DEATH:
Is of the flesh, we must all die once (Heb.9: 27) and that will
happen to all who are still alive, at the 7th trump, 1Cor. 15:51-52 ALL changed from
flesh to spirit, ALL flesh will at this time die.

THE SECOND DEATH:
Is of the soul.(Rev. 20:14)although we have changed from
flesh to spirit, some souls are still mortal, and liable to die, at the last day of the
millennium, on judgement day. Some will immediately be resurrected, at the start of the
millennium

THE FIRST RESURRECTION:
Is of those while still in the flesh body,and on earth
when the antichrist is also here, and do overcome.The first Resurrection occurs
simultaneously with the 7th trump (Rev.
20:4-6).

THE SECOND RESURRECTION:
Is of those, who although they do not overcome
while in the flesh on earth, because they will in-fact worship the antichrist,may in fact
experience the second resurrection.
Many of them, however, will not experience even this, the second resurrection.
if they are once again deceived by satan at the end of the millennium. (Rev.20:7-8)
The second Resurrection occurs at the end of the millennium

Study the word of God for yourself.!! And trash the books of men, which do not line up
with God's most holy word!!








To: O'Hara who wrote (518)1/11/2000 1:31:00 PM
From: O'Hara  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 609
 
><>...The Second Coming of Christ... Think On It!!!...><>

†...So how will we .....GATHER BACK.....to our Lord Jesus?...†

OR

†...What Happens at the 7th Trump?...†

Rev 11:15
15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The
kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he
shall reign for ever and ever.
(KJV)
This trump sounds the return of Chris† and begins the millennium reign of our King and
our Saviour.
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"For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven, with a shout, with a voice of the
archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first"
"Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the
clouds,to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord" (1Thess.
4:16-17)

Them,refers to those who are already there, all of those dead in flesh,but in spirit
bodies, and with Chris†.
(1 Thess. 4:14) (Rev. 19:14) Why will we MEET them? Because they are already
there in the spirit with the Lord, we cannot precede them.

Why are we all changed into our spirit body?

Now this I say brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither
doth corruption inherit incorruption. Behold I show you a mystery; we shall not all
sleep, but we shall all be changed. ...In a moment (not at any moment, but at the 7th
trump!!) in the twinkilng of an eye,(in the snap of your fingers, (just that fast) at the last
trump: (The 7th trump is the last trump!)...(Not one second before)... for the trumpet
shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall all be
changed.(from the flesh to spirit).
For this corruptible (The flesh) must put on incorruption(spirit body), and this mortal,(A
soul liable to die) must put on immortality,(A soul not liable to die).

This happens at the first resurrection for some, and at the second resurrection for some
others.
So when this corruptible(flesh) shall have put on incorruption(spirit) and this
mortal(Soul, liable to die) shall have put on immortality (a soul not liable to die)
Again either the first or second resurrection), then shall be brought to pass the saying
that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory. ( 1 Cor.15:50-54)

Putting on incorruption is automatic in that it happens to all on earth at the same
instant, at the 7th trump. It takes no effort on our part. It happens according to the plan
of God, it marks the beginning of the millennium. The return of our Lord....(Rev.11:15)

At the 7th trump the dead will rise first because they are already with him. Then we
who are still alive shall be changed from flesh to spirit body, to meet them who are
already in the spirit body,= air, or breath of life.... together with our Lord. .. Then the
millennium!

Behold I show you a mystery: We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed. (1Cor.
15:51)
In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump,for the trumpet shall sound
(trump of God, 1 Thess 4:16) and the dead shall be raised incorriptible (1Thess. 4:16)
and we shall all be changed. (1Thess. 4:17)....... 1 Cor. 15:52

So in just two scriptures Paul answers with clarity and simplicity, three pertinent
questions concerning the return of our Lord.
1. How?... In the spirit body.1Cor. 15:51
2.Who?.....ALL. 1Cor. 15:51,,, Why all?.... 1Cor. 15:50
3 When?...At the 7th trump. 1 Cor 15:52

It Cannot happen at Any moment, and it will not be of christians only....
Our Lord Jesus is not making a special trip seven years before it is written just to satisfy
the vain imaginations of the rapture teachers... who think there might be some heat to
take, during tribulations, and can't stand the thought. Mainly because they again err in
their understanding of tribulations.

There will be two tribulations, one from satan, that is the deceit..... And the second
tribulations are from God, but not directed at his children.
These second set of tribulations are directed at those who hate Him.

So call it what you like but we will gather back to our Lord when and how it is written
in the word of God....not in the books of man!

Intended or not, the effect of the rapture doctrine was and continues to be a financial
boon to the christian church. It teaches that unless one is a christian they will be left
behind to be tortured, tormented, and finally die a terrifying death. All of this is
necessary, they say, in order to go to heaven. So hurry up and come forward, no time
to think about it, because Jesus might even come back before I'm finished, .....is what
they say.

As servants of the living God we must all do our part to unravel this web of deceit. I for
one have repented for believing itat one time,(the rapture theory).... without doing my
own study ever so carefully in the word of God. Praise be to God for common sense,
wisdom, and truth, we must search it out. The rapture doctrine is a fairytale for some,
and a horror story for others, but to no one God's truth!.... It is not the word of God.
Except in the vain imagination of man.!The entire scenerio of the rapture throry, is
totally absurd when lined up with the word of God.
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Study it for yourself!
I beseech you in the name of our Savior the Lord Jesus Christ, to search the word of
God, for there only will you find the truth of God.

Please receive this with the love in which it was written,
In the service of our Lord Jesus

Shalom...><>