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To: epicure who wrote (41943)11/17/1999 8:37:00 AM
From: epicure  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 71178
 
We used to kick global warming around a it on some of these threads- I can't remember exactly who was interested and who wasn't- but this is an interesting article I got from another thread.

csmonitor.com



To: epicure who wrote (41943)11/17/1999 3:05:00 PM
From: CharleyMike  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71178
 
<We are not merely our thoughts
we are also our behaviors.
So while my thoughts lead me one way,
my behavior often leads me another way.
>

Lovely, absofrigginglutely lovely.



To: epicure who wrote (41943)11/17/1999 10:11:00 PM
From: JF Quinnelly  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71178
 
I I I am just the same in 3D as I am here. Warm, wonderful, charming, witty, humble, honest

did I forget anything?



To: epicure who wrote (41943)11/18/1999 3:28:00 AM
From: E  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 71178
 
<<<And you
only know one aspect of the person on the net. I like the aspect, but it is too simple to
say who we are here is who we are.>>>

Of course that's true, but in a way, it isn't an enormous truth, it's a small one, I think. This is why I think this:

I say it because I think we do get a real feel, here, for some important aspects of people. Of course we don't know everything. But we know, after interacting here with someone, and watching them interact with others, a great deal.

"A great deal" doesn't mean a large portion of all they are in their heart and soul, but it does mean a great deal as compared with what we know of many, maybe most, of our 3D friends.

Even with them, we only see them with us, often. And we only see them in certain settings and circumstances and with certain "faces" on.

Have you ever known and liked a person for years, and then seen them be gratuitously rude to a hardworking waiter, and then, rich though they are, leave a mean tip?

Have you ever had something very, very good happen to you and discovered that some of your 3D "friends" aren't really very happy about it? They try to act happy, but... they just simply aren't?

Have you had a very good thing happen to you and discovered that there were people who now treated you much better than they had before?

Have you ever had a very good friend, a loved friend, try to seduce your husband?

Have you ever learned that a friend told a secret of yours, a true secret you shared with her, to someone else, complete, of course, with instructions never to tell a soul?

Have you ever had a beloved sister, your best friend, go into therapy and become the enemy of you, her other friends, both of your parents, and one of her two sons?

Have you ever been the executor of a will, and discovered aspects of individuals you thought you knew very well that you never suspected were there?

Have you ever had a friend whom you thought was one kind of person (kind, decent) who met another of your friends, a vulnerable, "unimportant" person (in the setting in which they met), and treated that person coldly, humiliatingly when she presumed to make friendly overtures based on their shared acquaintance with you?

Have you ever had a friend who was dying of cancer turn into a simply horrible person, full of hatred of everyone who wasn't dying and of determination to hurt as many people as she could before she left this vale of tears?

Have you ever learned that someone you knew well was, in an emergency, a hero, possessed of great courage and principle? Or a saint, possessed of infinite patience and no meanness of spirit?

Have you learned of yourself that even if a person is a saint and you have come to respect them greatly, you still don't want to be around them simply because you find them... boring?

All these things I have experienced with 3D friends or acquaintances. I could think of many more. I have done things myself that would surprise most everyone who knows me. And maybe surprise the people who know me here rather less.

So what I think is that maybe one knows a very very few people extremely well, in their 3D lives. But mostly, there is surprise after surprise.

So of course what we know of people here isn't the whole story. The question for me is, how much of the true story, the story of the inner person, and of their real lives, do we learn here (by seeing what people claim to be, and what they involuntarily show themselves to be, too) as compared what we learn about our friends and acquaintances in our regular lives. And I suspect that the comparison is not unfavorable to our DAR friends, in the "trueness" of what we perceive.

I know that if we met, our perceptions of each other would change. But I don't think this would mean that what we knew before was untrue. It would only show what we know already; that it wasn't the whole story.

Like in 3D life, I think. You keep learning things about the people you know. But I suspect you arrive here, sooner, at a higher level of "true," or "inner," knowledge.

That's just what I suspect.