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To: goldsnow who wrote (15328)	11/17/1999 12:28:00 PM
From: Neocon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 17770

It was probably Monica Lewinsky......

To: goldsnow who wrote (15328)	11/17/1999 12:43:00 PM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Respond to of 17770

Are you razzing me again? You know that my conspiratorial cast of mind has been helpful in, basically, one instance only: the bombing of US embassies in Dar es-Salaam and Nairobi by the French with the tacit complicity of the Israelis (the Likud hawks, precisely). Apart from that I've been quite "mainstream" as far as other world issues are concerned.... Ooops! I forgot to mention my other favorite: Miss Monica Lewinsky was a Mossad "sugar trap", of course. As regards the EgyptAir incident it was obvious from the very beginning that something human happened in the cockpit: the plane dropped from 33,000 ft to 10,000 ft only to jump back to 16,000 ft before its final dive into the Atlantic..... And why would the pilot turn off all four reactors at 33,000 ft ??? Of course, to admit that EgyptAir is infiltrated by the so-called Muslim Brothers would be a fatal blow to this airline --and, incidentally, to Egypt's tourist business. The airline's CEO, security chief, together with other top-brass execs, as well as Egypt's intelligence chief will just get the sack. The company name will have to be changed as well --Osiris airways? Pharaoh Airlines? you tell me! Besides, to acknowledge such a terrorist scenario would only mean the beginning of the nightmare for Egypt: if the Muslim brothers were able to infiltrate the state-controlled airline, then maybe they've permeated tourist resorts and hotels as well? The nasty thing is that a Boeing pilot is not a luggage caddie --it's no small potatoes. Hence, it raises the question of how reliable is Egypt's middle management as a whole --that is, in the military, business, and administrative sectors.... It's a serious challenge to a key ally of the US in the Middle East.

To: goldsnow who wrote (15328)	11/18/1999 4:20:00 AM
From: GUSTAVE JAEGER	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 17770

Follow-up to the EgyptAir incident --an exhaustive report on Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood: idsa-india.org Excerpt: On November 13, 1995, an Egyptian diplomat working in its mission to the UN was shot dead in Geneva.45 A hitherto unknown outfit, the International Justice Group, owned responsibility for the killing.46 In less than a week, on November 19, a car bomb exploded at the Egyptian Embassy in Islamabad. Sixteen people died and about 60 sustained injuries in the blast. Al Gamaa claimed responsibility for the dastardly act.47 Subsequently, al-Jihad and the International Justice Group, the latter believed to be branch of al-Gamaa, also claimed "credit" for the operation.48 Meanwhile the terrorist campaign continued with unabated fury inside the country. The number of deaths had risen to 850 towards the end of 1995 [49] which went up close to one thousand by the middle of April 1996.50 An attack on foreign tourists on April 18, 1996, was the most tragic operation during that period. Extremists, belonging to al-Gamaa,51 opened automatic gunfire on a group of Greek tourists, killing 18 of them, including 14 elderly women. Twenty others were injured in the incident.52 The immediate fallout of the outburst of terrorist violence was that the people in the country were increasingly coming under the grip of a fear psychosis. An air of uncertainty marked the atmosphere. Since many Copts were killed and several churches and Christian-owned business establishments and shops were burnt by Islamists, religious minorities like Christian Copts were feeling concerned about their future.53 Writing about Cairo, an observer had noted: "Increasingly the mood in the sprawling Egyptian capital is of a state-of-siege."54 The continuing violence in general and attacks on foreigners55 in particular had been scaring off tourists. It had resulted in 50 per cent cuts in hotel, cruise and sightseeing bookings during 1992 [56] and Egyptair--the national airliner--faced a revenue drop of 20 per cent.57 The earning from tourism, which had so far been accounting for about $3 billion a year,58 i.e., 8 per cent of Egypt's foreign exchange earnings,59 had declined by 35 per cent.60 The 1993-94 terror wave caused the annual number of visitors to drop from 3.3 million to 2.5 million.61 The country's plans for economic reform depended heavily on a reduction in the budget deficit. Hence, there was said to be great concern bordering on panic in the government at the Muslim extremists' attacks on tourists and their threats against foreign business.62 Though the situation in the country had not reached chaotic dimensions, remarked an eyewitness, one could not ignore "the symptoms of instability that are surfacing with ever increasing frequency."63 This shows that the Muslim militants were succeeding, to some extent, in achieving their initial objective of causing political and economic destabilisation in Egypt. [snip]

To: goldsnow who wrote (15328)	11/19/1999 6:48:00 PM
From: Yaacov	Respond to of 17770

According to El-Akhbar, Two members of AMAN meet the co-pilot and offer him 1,000,000 dollar, a house in Haifa, three virgins, and a new identity, if he takes over the command of the plane at 30,000 feet altitude and makes a nose dive! Sounds credible? Off course not! By the same token people who like to lay the blame on Israel in this affair are not credible. El-Akhbar is more full of ---- than a constipated pregnant cow! gg There maybe another theory that I post a week ago, long before this thread paid any attention to this affair, Akhwan-el-Muslemin could have had a hand in this affair. The co-pilot could have been a member. The members of Akhwan-el-Mulemin killed Sadat, they killed Abdulah, the grand father of the late king Hussein of Jordan, they brought about the coup by Abulkarim Gasaem that killed king of Iraq, king Hussein, and his uncle, Nuri Said. Every attempt of terrorism in the middle east has been the work of this brotherhood,or with their knoweldge. They are strong, they have peneterated from Sudan to Iraq in every part of society, and they are hidden, armed abd dangerours. Or the man was just crazy? I don't beleive that! In any case the Egyptians know that if the mans guilt is proven, the damage to Egypt air will be byond repair!