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To: Larry Brubaker who wrote (16255)11/18/1999 1:21:00 AM
From: I. N. Vester  Respond to of 27311
 
What % of earnings do Intel and Cisco put into R&D?

ditto for advertising (you think TV ads are free?)

ditto for sales forces

What are their tax rates?

What are your estimates of the same for Valence?



To: Larry Brubaker who wrote (16255)11/18/1999 1:24:00 AM
From: Mark Johnson  Respond to of 27311
 
Larry have you noticed you missed an almost 80% gain in price of Valence shares in the last two months?



To: Larry Brubaker who wrote (16255)11/18/1999 1:35:00 AM
From: Mark Johnson  Respond to of 27311
 
Larry, here's where IN said it best....hit the nail on the head....and you missed a tremendous buying opportunity:
<<But in the last 2 months
while you have continued to warn how dangerous
CC was, the longs understood their actions far
better than you did - well enough to profit big
time by getting in at the bottom.>>>

And this past year you have been predicting, death spiral, bankruptcy etc..etc...



To: Larry Brubaker who wrote (16255)11/19/1999 6:38:00 PM
From: mooter775  Respond to of 27311
 
Larry,.

I'm not going to get into a pissing contest with you on expected margins or run rates, ok?

My opinion is that the company will have in place equipment in late 2000 to achieve a run rate of $ 250 mm in 2001. In fact, I believe that equipment has already been ordered several weeks ago, along with a similar order by Hanil.

I am comfortable in expecting a > 60% gross manufacturing margin on cells produced in NI and 50% adjusting for yield.
GSA should be < 15% (no real sales and marketing costs) and including R&D at 5% of revenue, leaves a pretax margin at 30%-35%. Tax rate (NI and Grand Caymans structure) should be < 20%, probably around 15%, leaving a net after tax of 20%-25% overall, and 30% on the margin. (Your comment re Intel is inappropriate, since I was talking about net margins on incremental revenue after breakeven. And INTC has a larger tax rate than VLNC's expected 15%-20% in the early years.)

So I think we will see > $ 1.00/share in 2001, especially if including licensing and jv income. And since I believe that the capacity to do this will be in place in late 2000, and since I believe that the investment community will see VLNC as capacity restrained for the years 2000-2003, then I believe investors will begin in late 2000 to attach very aggressive multiplies to 2001 and 2002 expected earnings.

And while I would be the first to say that all of us are guessing a bit about sales prices, yields, gross margins, etc., I am confident that Valence will be seen as the industry market leader and accorded a multiple befitting such leadership.

In the shorter term, I think the stock performance will be determined by the size and frequency of repeat orders.