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To: Bux who wrote (3404)	11/18/1999 1:17:00 PM
From: Boplicity	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13582

I will add a little to that. Once they snag a mobile customer to use HDR they will bring on home and use it there. What I would like to see, is a cost comparison between HDR and VOFDM and time to market for each. Right now, all I have is HDR at the existing cell sites, you install a card, software grade it you are ready run, where as VOFDM you have noting in place. Time to market it would seem a no contest, HDR wins. I have seen no time line, or cost estimate for VOFDM. Has anyone? VOFDM could be 5 years out for all we know. Greg

To: Bux who wrote (3404)	11/18/1999 1:26:00 PM
From: limtex	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 13582

Bux - This blows the HDR in the states as the last mile solution right out the window, unless the cost advantage with HDR is greater then CSCO has to offer. I don't think anyone was ever counting on HDR monopolizing the last mile solution. But HDR will have two important advantages that will help carriers use HDR as a last mile solution early on to help justify their investment in HDR How much internet time is going to be taken "at home" and how much outside of home? That it seems to me is the big question. I don't think we should assume that the majority of internet time will be at home on a PC in a couple fo years. Look at the new AMZN idea of a mini AMZN screen/shopper/communicator in your pocket. IBM new flexible screens that you can fold up like a handkerchief and put in your pocket. Sitting in front of a PC will continue to be a part of our activity but it won't be the majority. Mobility will win over fixed for individuals. That probably won't apply to offices or businesses but to individuals certainly. Best regards, L

To: Bux who wrote (3404)	11/18/1999 2:05:00 PM
From: Ruffian	Respond to of 13582

From the November 15, 1999, issue of Wireless Week Then, And Now: CDPD Reborn By Brad Smith In this emerging age of wireless data, is it possible for one of the first wireless data services to be reborn? That's the question that will be answered soon as AT&T Wireless Services prepares to announce today what essentially is a re-launch of its cellular digital packet data network. The carrier is formally opening the service in Los Angeles, introducing its new quad-mode PocketNet handset and announcing a new portal service using the popular Palm V personal digital assistant. The Los Angeles CDPD buildout and the new PocketNet phone, the Mitsubishi MobileAccess T250, have been known for months with only the Nov. 15 launch date in question. The biggest news out of the announcement is the new service from OmniSky Corp. that uses the Palm V for Internet access, including e-mail. A second PocketNet handset also is in the offing. AWS, whose voice network is built on TDMA technology, has said for some time that its immediate wireless data future is based on CDPD. This announcement and the marketing muscle behind it are intended to renew interest in the service. PocketNet has failed to take off since it was introduced more than two years ago, partly because its handsets use analog for voice. The Mitsubishi T250 provides analog voice, and cellular, PCS and CDPD data transmission capabilities. One of the keys to AWS's strategy in the rollout is to emphasize the fixed price for both PocketNet and the new service from OmniSky, which is the new name for start-up OpenSky Inc. Most competing data offerings currently have a range of pricing based on usage. The AWS prices weren't available for this article, but the current PocketNet monthly price is $29.99 for unlimited use, and the OmniSky service is expected to come in at less than $50 a month. Los Angeles, which required the upgrade of more than 300 cell sites, opens up a large new market for CDPD and was the last major urban hole except for Atlanta. CDPD still only covers just over half of the country's population, a fact that will likely remain one of its weaknesses for potential users outside major metropolitan areas. Analyst Andrew Seybold, publisher of Andrew Seybold's Outlook, says PocketNet has too many problems but OmniSky's service is a "great first offering." The biggest problems with PocketNet are that the handsets don't store the personal information manager data in the phone itself and that CDPD's in-building coverage is not good. If a subscriber is in a meeting inside a building and can't get coverage, he also can't look at his calendar or address book. The phone becomes useless except for voice. OmniSky, formed by 3Com Corp. and Aether Technologies Inc. last June, will focus on the Palm V and a specially designed CDPD modem from Novatel Wireless Inc. The service also will support the Palm III. The Novatel modem is expected to cost about $299. Using the paired combination, subscribers can receive their regular e-mail over the Internet using Internet-standard POP3 or IMAP4 protocols. Unlike the wirelessly enabled Palm VII device, the OmniSky service can be on all the time and receive e-mail. Next March the company plans to enable corporate e-mail with support for Microsoft Exchange and Lotus Notes, according to CEO Pat McVeigh. In addition, OmniSky, which also will be available on other CDPD networks such as Bell Atlantic Mobile, GTE Wireless and Ameritech, will provide direct access to sites on the Internet. The Palm VII uses a portal called Palm.net, which uses "Web clipping" for several dozen Web sites. McVeigh says the Nov. 15 launch of OmniSky will be a limited one targeting 5,000 "friendly" business users who agree to give the company feedback on the service. The full launch will be in February, again targeted at the "heat seekers" or high-end users among the business community, he says. OmniSky will be available initially through CDPD, but the service is air-interface agnostic and McVeigh hopes to sell it through other carriers as well. But if OmniSky catches on, it could be the answer needed for CDPD's future.

To: Bux who wrote (3404)	11/19/1999 12:03:00 AM
From: engineer	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 13582

Ok, suppose we give Cisco that they can come up with this and that they do develop the equipment. It only took QC more than 8 years to get out CDMA tot he point where it caught on. HDR has been around for at least 2 years getting verified ansd qualified and still has another 1-2 to get out there in use. Then they have to go get approval to modify the waveforms accepted by the FCC for MMDS which has not been done yet. Meantime the carriers can start radiating HDR TODAY on theri existing bandwidth, since it is just an addin to theri existing equipment as a digital board and a router. It uses the SAME RF as the CDMA voice. So the carriers make a business decision to add without any of hte rest ofhte hassle like new equipment rololout, new business startup, tower acquisition, FCC approval, LEC approval, etc. Then they have to explore new frequency propagation effects at 2.4Ghz versis the 1.9 GHz. Add on 5-7 years to get it widespread with coverage. In the meantime, Sprint or Nextwave rolls this out and goes on with business using lower cost voice equiepment which has had the development costs amortized by using high volume voice business. I think that by the time it gets out, the HDR will have been well established.... Besides, what's to stop the cariers from buying up the MMDS freqencies and putting the lower cost to roll out HDR in that space as well? Check out the registered owners of this space now....