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To: maouse who wrote (2061)11/19/1999 4:21:00 AM
From: Berry Picker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4775
 
RE>> If it weren't for the whole fruit deal Adam would probably still be alive and kickin'. And so wouldn't all of his descendants...talk about a crowded Earth!<<

You speak about hypothetical things... Adam had to fall it was ordained before the world began for Jesus to be crucified.. it was not possible for Adam to not fall. Adam had a will but could only freely do that which God had ordained to be done to Glorify Himself in Jesus the Son !

Jesus was slain before the world was created Jesus could not be slain for nothing Adam had to sin and the world had to fall !

Revelation 13:8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.

Beside *IF* Adam had not fallen then the curse of INCREASED CONCEPTION and PAIN would not have been put upon women !

Genesis 3:16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

God is the ONLY one who has FREE WILL to do GOOD !

Men cannot will to do spiritual good until they are Born again and raised from the death being "dead in sin"

Even after we are born again we still fail to freely will to do good even as Paul has said !

Romans 7:14 For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin.
15 For that which I do I allow not: for what I would, that do I not; but what I hate, that do I.
16 If then I do that which I would not, I consent unto the law that it is good.
17 Now then it is no more I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me.
18 For I know that in me (that is, in my flesh,) dwelleth no good thing: for to will is present with me; but how to perform that which is good I find not.
19 For the good that I would I do not: but the evil which I would not, that I do.

Paul does EVIL even after being filled with the Holy Ghosts How much less free are those who are still DEAD in the DEATH of Adam ????

FREE WILL.. Free to sin maybe ... Nothing good in the flesh... Can the Carnal mind and the Flesh "accept" Jesus ?

Come on... We love Him because HE first loved US... If He loved everyone like that they would love Him.

If Jesus would have prayed for the whole world The whole world would have been saved ! He is God can He not answer His own prayer ? Jesus Prayed for Peter Jesus never Prayed for Judas ! That was the difference in a nut shell !