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To: Ilaine who wrote (42267)11/19/1999 10:06:00 PM
From: Crocodile  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 71178
 
Thanks Coby... always enjoy links on classical studies....

Just thinking of your reference to Greek and Latin.... I studied a smattering of both... wanted to learn Latin so that I could read Catullus... Some of the late 19th and early 20th c. translations are so ridiculously BAD... Also rather amusing that certain poems of his known works weren't published in older collections...a form of scholarly censorship...(-;

There are some good translations now (thankfully)...

Hmmm... just remembered something that happened when I was studying Greek...here's a little "Croc anecdote" from my scholarly period...

We had a rather humorless fellow who taught our Greek classes... He would stare at you with the most penetrating beady blue eyes while you were stumbling along reading some passage in Greek...

During the first class of the year, he made some remark about how we can read Greek, but we will never be absolutely certain of how it was pronounced at the time when many of the works were written....

A few weeks later, I was called upon to translate a little story from the Greek reader... I still remember a certain line from it... It went:

The ship sailed to Salamis..

The following "altercation" then took place...

ME: "The ship sailed to Salamis:

HE: (practically shrieking) "WHAT did you SAY??!!!"

ME: "The ship sailed to Salamis"...

HE: "No! No! No! You DO NOT pronounce "Salamis" as "Sah-LOM-iss" as if it were a piece of smoked sausage!!!!"

ME: "How do you know?"

HE: "What do you mean by that?"

ME: "On the first day of class, you said that we can't be sure of how Greek words were actually pronounced"

HE: (becoming livid) "Well, I'm CERTAIN that Salamis wasn't pronounced like SALAMI!!!.... You pronounce it as Sah-lah-MISS!!!!! Never mind... don't read any more of that passage... (then glaring down his nose through his little reading glasses, he fastened his beady eyes on the person in front of me... a thin waif of a girl who hated to speak out loud, then he spoke),"You... You read this passage and pronounce the words correctly!"

SHE: The ship sailed to Sah-LOM-iss..

HE: NO! NO! NO! NO!!!!!!!! (glaring at her, then turning to his favorite student while making this smug little grimace...) "Please show how this SHOULD be read."

TEACHER'S PET: The ship sailed to...uh....Sah-LOM-iss...

HE: (throwing up his hands in disbelief, then blasting me with his angry glare)... "NOW SEE WHAT YOU'VE DONE!!! NOW NOBODY CAN PRONOUNCE SALAMIS CORRECTLY!!!!"

ME: (sheepish grin and silence)...

***What?? You didn't actually think I would say something ...uhm...terrible... to him, did you??? What? You DID?? Pah-leeeese, give me some credit for a little tact...;-}>