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To: Maurice Winn who wrote (51220)	11/20/1999 5:06:00 PM
From: freeus	Respond to of 152472

Great post Mqurice. Good place to donate to for private property rights: Pacific Legal Foundation. Their newsletter tells how private property rights in this country are being totally destroyed. And I agree, without that, we will go down as a nation: it is capitalism and property rights that make people WANT to achieve, to invent, to work hard...if you cant keep "the fruits of your labor" why labor? Freeus

To: Maurice Winn who wrote (51220)	11/21/1999 9:43:00 AM
From: Clarksterh	Respond to of 152472

Maurice - Dell, the seller of the puter to me is NOT their customer. Dell is a distributor. Academic. The point is the same. . From where I come, it isn't a good idea to put customers out of business. That has an unfortunate effect on profitability. Usually marketing companies try to GET customers, not shut them down. So now you are saying Microsoft management is inept? Since I doubt this is really what you mean to say, I think you are intentionally missing the point. (which is that power means that something which costs you only a little costs your opponent a lot.) When the food doesn't go in their mouth, but goes on the floor. That means they are not hungry and that's the end of their meal. But should you be allowed to say, 'This is my house. You broke the rules. No more air for you?'? When the power differential becomes great enough this is inevitable in a world without rules. Some people can't understand that and think that not GIVING something to somebody is damaging them. And you think it's not?!!! See above example. If what you are really saying is that my right to control my property has much more weight than your right to access to it, I agree. But not without some restrictions such as a restriction on causing death. Clark PS The analogy with adults and children is, at best, a weak one. The problem is that not only do children have little power, but they have less intellectual capacity. The same is not true of Microsoft and its customers (or at least not to the same degree). Mea culpa.