SI
SI
discoversearch

We've detected that you're using an ad content blocking browser plug-in or feature. Ads provide a critical source of revenue to the continued operation of Silicon Investor.  We ask that you disable ad blocking while on Silicon Investor in the best interests of our community.  If you are not using an ad blocker but are still receiving this message, make sure your browser's tracking protection is set to the 'standard' level.
Gold/Mining/Energy : TS TELECOM (www.tstelecom.com): ASPIRING TELECO -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?


To: Ciao who wrote (903)11/21/1999 11:43:00 AM
From: geoff-t  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1762
 
Ciao:

a. I do not know the reasons behind pricing TS stock @HK$1.50. I understand that it is one of the smallest IPO among the first and second batch of listing candidates with China Agrotech being the smallest asking only HK$90 million. The MP3 player maker, Pine Technology offered 165 million shares @HK$1.50 to raise $247.5 million. My guess is that TS set the IPO price at a buck fifty to be in line with the other listing candidates to give the impression that it is not an expensive stock and work the numbers backward to arrive at 60 some million IPO shares. Having a low buy-in price for retail investors is not a bad strategy afterall.

b. Yes, I know I can open an account with Dao Heng to subscribe for some of the son's shares. I also understand that one can open an account with Hongkong Clearing and apply for IPO shares electronically as well. But judging from the incredible investors' interest in the early GEM candidates, the chances of getting any meaning allotment is very remote. In the case of Pine Tech, I was told 90% of the IPO shares was reserved for institutions and employees, only 10% or 16.5 million shares was made to the public on a pro-rata basis. I think I will take my chances with the father play. I am sure I can get more there and better still at a much cheaper price.

Yes, it will be easier for other NA telcos to gain entry to China's telecommunication market in light of China's "imminent" entry to WTO. But TS has the distinct advantage of having a very big foot in the door with so many heavy weight Chinese telcos as its customers. Besides, the main reason that I took a position in TS a couple of years ago was that I think its cable monitoring system is the defacto industry leader in China with so many of its units being used all over the map (of China), it will be almost impossible for a new comer to break TS almost monopolistic hold without first going to bed with it. What do you think.

Geoff



To: Ciao who wrote (903)11/22/1999 7:31:00 PM
From: speculatingvalue  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 1762
 
If my calculations are right and TOM holds $2.62 per share of 8003, then the market is extremely inefficient.

Why would anyone participate in the 8003 IPO at $1.50 HK when they can buy the same thing for 68.7 cents by purchasing TOM? (1.20 / 2.62 * 1.50)

Something doesn't add up. Either there is a huge arbitrage opportunity or I'm missing some information. Is it possible that TOM is holding back less than 70%? That would explain the discrepency.