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To: JPR who wrote (9712)11/21/1999 10:48:00 PM
From: Mohan Marette  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12475
 
Indian community flaunts Indianness at 'mega-mela' in Birmingham,UK

JPR:
Check this out,poor BBC.
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Sanjay Suri

November 21, 1999, 17:15 Hrs (IST)

Birmingham,UK: Indian flags sprang up at one of the biggest South Asian events of the year this weekend, dashing BBC's hopes of using the fair to "integrate" youths of Indian descent into British society.

The flags came up at the 'mega-mela,' or fair, organised by the BBC at the huge National Exhibition Centre in Birmingham, about 160 km north of London. The flags became significant because of political and business issues below the lights and the din at the mela.

The 'mega-mela' was a BBC exercise in owning South Asian culture in Britain as something British. It grew out of the BBC's weekly effort in that direction through the programme Network East that focusses on South Asian life in Britain.

The BBC was also making a business of winning a South Asian audience through the 'mega-mela', as it does through that programme. BBC viewership is down generally, and is believed to have dropped even more sharply among South Asian audiences now hooked on to Indian TV channels like Zee, Sony TV and B4U.

The Indian TV channels have meant that a whole new generation is growing up on a cultural diet that can last a viewer 24 hours a day and most of it comes directly from India.

The BBC, which is funded by a government-enforced licence fee, would like the young to be British Asian and not 'Indian'. A 'bhangra' sequence waving the Union Jack would be fine, but waving the Indian flag, no.

"Indians in America tend to see themselves as American more than Indians, (those) in Britain see themselves as British," said one BBC staffer at the 'mega-mela'. The remark came soon after the band from Birmingham, DCS, came on at one end of the hall with some old favourites. "We may speak English, but our heart is in Punjab," the words of one song in Punjabi went.

And as the crowds began to dance wildly, many among them raised Indian flags. The flags had been placed on offer at a Sikh music stall. Those little flags moving to the beat were much more than a tricolour in a strobe-lit hall. They were a political statement.

"Naturally we would like the young generation to integrate into society here and become British," the BBC staffer said. What the organisation sees is a new generation born British, located in Britain but otherwise Indian without even knowing India.

The crowds were also emphatically Indian rather than being simply "Asian". It is primarily those of Indian origin who have got into the swing of the young new style far more than Pakistani or Sri Lankan youths. And it is the youths of Indian descent who are in fact setting the style.

At the fair, South Asian really meant 'Indian', apart from a couple of Pakistani bands like 'Junoon' and 'Awaaz' and some teenagers in Pakistani cricket World Cup T-shirts. But given the spirit in which Junoon sang, they were popular enough with the Indian audiences. Young members of the Indian community seemed to have the confidence to like something Pakistani without hidden resentment.

Not many expect such a definite expression of Indianness among the youth. The scenes at the 'mega-mela' were, politically, not what the BBC would like to see among the new British-born. But on those sprawling floors at the NEC in Birmingham, it wasn't something the BBC could help.

(India Abroad News Service)




To: JPR who wrote (9712)11/22/1999 12:49:00 PM
From: Mohan Marette  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12475
 
Hindu Customs Among the Muslim Community in India (and Pakistan)

JPR:
Did you ask in one your posts about similarities in customs among Muslims and Hindus in India/Pakistan ? If so here is something interesting I found on the subject.
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...But the more significant reason for a socio-cultural interaction between the two communities was the fact the overwhelmingly large proportion of Muslims are converts from Hinduism and their ancestors time or the other been Hindus. Though their conversion in almost all cases had been at the point of the sword or through some other compulsion like penal taxes, discrimination in the eyes of the law under Muslim rule, the converts consciously and sub-consciously carried with them the strains of their pre-Muslim past. This is not to say that Islam did not influence Hinduism, it did as we have seen earlier in the section on Hinduism. The influence of Hinduism on Muslims is more pronounced on communities like the Bohras, Kutchi Memons and Khojas who embraced Islam relatively recently, i.e. about 200 years back.

Similarity in Surnames/Family Names amongst Indian (and Pakistani) Muslims

To gauge the influence of Hinduism one only needs to ask a Khoja or Bohra his name. Names like Allibhai Premji, Abdul Hashim Premji, etc. occur frequently among the Bohras and Khojas. Hindu Surnames occur more frequently among Muslims in general for instance, Chowdhury, Khatri, Patel, Dalwai, Parkar, Munshi, etc.

(These names are being quoted only as proper nouns, any resemblance with actual names of individuals is accidental and not intentional.)

Khoja social functions reveal the surprising presence of Hindu customs. For instance during a Khoja wedding a coconut is used as an auspicious fruit. In Maharashtra, Muslim women from the Konkan region even wear the Mangal Sutra after wedding. The wearing of flowers, (forbidden in Islam) by Muslim women is a common Hindu custom carried on by the converts.

Idolatary amongst Indian (and Pakistani) Muslims

Islam denounces idolatory, but in India we have cults like Saibaba in Maharashtra where Muslims worship a personified saint alongwith the Hindus. This apart the more common practice of flocking to pilgrimages to Mazhars, (tombs) of saints like Salim Chisti exists generally among Indian Muslims only. Worship at personal tombs is but one step behind worshipping personified deities. Flowers are offered at these Mazhars the pilgrims shower

Flowers, a custom which smack of borrowings from Hindu customs. Even the custom of spreading a sheet (chaddar) of flowers is an Indian adaptation of an Islamic custom. In other Islamic countries such sheets are made of silk and satin (like the one spread over the Kaaba), only in India are flowers used.

Fakirs, Sufis, Pirs - The Muslim Sanyasis

The Muslim practice of Sufism embodied in the many Pirs, Sufis and Fakirs emphasizes on universal brotherhood . Although Sufism seems to have originated in Iran, Sufism in India has an unmistakable influence of the Hindu practices of Yoga, Pranayam and the concept of Sanayasa with its Sanyasis, Sadhus and Rishis. Interestingly the Sufis and Fakirs undertake exercises derived from the Hindu discipline of Yoga. In fact all through the middle ages up to the present age their have been many Babas (saints) who are Muslims, but attract both Hindu and Muslim disciples.

The Sufi movement seems to to have originated in Iran. It does not seem to have any presence in Arabia and other Arab states. The Sufi tradition seems to borrow a lot from the pantheistic mysticism of pre-Islamic Zoroastrianism and Manichaeism (a pre-Islamic religious sect in Persia). The earliest Sufi saint-poet in India is considered to be Amir Khusro who lived in Delhi in the 13th century. Dara Shikoh the eldest of son of the Mughal ruler Shah Jehan seems to have been deeply influenced by Sufism. He is accredited with having undertaken a translation of the Upanishads from Sanskrit to Persian. (He incidentally was killed by his younger brother Aurangzeb in the battle of succession to the Mughal throne.)

The Sufis in India have represented a contrast to the general Islamic attitude of Jehad. The Sufi tradition stands out as a stark exception to the general Muslim temperament of either converting or killing the non-Muslims (Kafirs), imposing penal taxes and generally tyrannizing the non-muslim people. Had the Sufi tradition been dominat in mainstream Islam, the history of the world of the past 14 centuries would have been different - but this is only a hypothetical possibility.

The Sufis have borrowed extensively from the Rishi Parampara of India, the discipline of Yoga, Pranayam (breath control) and Hasya Rasa (the Sufi tradition of performing the dance of Joy). The Sufi tradition in India also seems to have been influenced by the Guru-Shishya parampara (Master-disciple tradition) of India which dates from the days of the Vedic Rishis, through Gautama Buddha, Mahavir, Guru Nanak Dev Ji, and the various saints of the Bhakti Movement - all of whom decried the practices of caste discrimination and preached the message of universal brotherhood of man with social justice for all. The Sufi tradition has borrowed from and strengthened this stream of priniciples of universal love and brotherhood of man that have been a part of the Sanatana Parampara of India for the last 4000 years. The Sufis incidentally also celebrate the Indian festival of Basant.

The Sufi tradition along with the other similar traditions like that of the Druze, Bahais (founded by Bahaullah in Iran), Ahmediyas (Quadianis), etc., represent an attempt to assert the universal brotherhood aspect of Islam. But as they do not characterize mainstream Islam it was necessary for them to shift away from the mainstream of Islam (i.e. the Shariah as interpreted by the Mullahs - clergy). In most cases the followers of such sects have been declared non-Muslims and there have been fatwas issued against them for blasphemy. The blasphemy excuse has been used against all those who have tried to digress from the accepted principles of Islam (the Shariah as interpreted by the Mullahs - clergy). Blasphemy is only for speaking about Islam. But ironically, in the last 14 centuries of Islam, Muslims have with impunity gone about destroying the places of worship belonging to those of other faiths, smashing idols and converting non-islamic people at the pain of death.

The Bohras, Khojas and Kutchi Memons

It is noteworthy that a small segment of the Bohras and Khojas come close to the Sufi outlook of pantheist mysticism. Some of them even continue to revere Hindu Gods especially Sri Krishna who some consider to be an earlier prophet of God, Mohammed being the last one. This can be explained by the fact that in the state of Gujarat from where the Bohras and Khojas hail; Sri Krishna is a very popular deity. Thus in spite of their conversion the Khojas and Bohras have tried to incorporate their pre-Muslim beliefs into their new faith.

Dress Styles amongst Indian (and Pakistani) Muslims

Even at the purely social level there have been common elements in the dress-styles of Hindus and Muslims. Muslim women still largely wear the saree, especially so in the rural areas. Even in some Muslim communities the Dhoti is worn by the males . The Punjabi dress of Hindus of the north is borrowed from the Muslims (though it had earlier been brought into India by the pre-Islamic Shakas and Kushanas. The Ghagara worn by women in north India is a unique blend of Hindu and Muslim dress styles. The wearing of bangles, bracelets, ear and nose Rings is a custom borrowed by the Muslim women from their Hindu counterparts.........

Hindu Mercantile Laws amongst the Bohras, Khojas and Kutchi Memons

Among the Bohra, Khojas and Memons the Hindu mercantile law is applied in trade and commerce.

Hindustani Music and Kathak - An amalgam of Bharatamuni and Arabic-Persian Dance Styles

Even the Moghal rulers patronized the intermixing of Indian and mid-eastern dance styles. The Lucknavi Kathak is an admixture of the originally Indian Kathak (which is typified today by the style of the Jaipuri Gharanaa or Jaipuri School). While the Lucknavi Gharana has many elements of mid-eastern and central Asian dance styles. Music has been another area where a fusion has taken place under official patronage. Many Ragas (metres' and Swaras (tunes) of Hindustani classical music are a result of the amalgam of Hindu and mid-eastern musical traditions.

Caste amongst Indian (and Pakistani) Muslims

Even the Indian caste system has proved to be indelible to the Islamic touch. Indian Muslims still refer to themselves as Rajputs Jats, Gujjars, etc. and caste considerations are present during match-making. Thus we can see that though Islam was spread by the sword and it acted as an exorcist to redeem the newly won adherents from the influence of their original religions, quite a few traces of pre-Islamic culture did manage to seep into the lifestyle and consciousness of the Indian converts to Islam.

(Note on ISLAM by the author: Here is it pertinent to note that some historians blame the Hindu-Muslim divide on the British policy of divide-and-rule of pitting Hindus against Muslims and vice versa...........
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To: JPR who wrote (9712)11/22/1999 1:20:00 PM
From: Mohan Marette  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 12475
 
Hindu Customs Among the Christian Community in India

JPR:
Here is some more interesting stuff. In case you haven't noticed the guy who wrote all this stuff thinks for some reason that all non-Hindus are unpatriotic and all Hindus are very patriotic..that is quite a stretch if you ask me.
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Christianity in India 40 years after Christ

But as mentioned earlier in this chapter, Christianity originally came to India before it reached many of the West European Christian countries of today. It is supposed to have reached India between the 1st and 3rd centuries of our era. But these early attempts to introduce Christianity into the country could make any major dent. Only small pockets in the South were converted and are today's Syrian Christians mainly from Kerala and some parts of Tamil Nadu.

These Christians mostly come from the Namboodri Brahmin caste of Kerala. They represent an interesting sociological entity. Devout Christians as they are, they are also stout-hearted nationalists with a strong Malayali identity which translates to a strong national (Indian) identity.

Hypothetically speaking, if all Indians had been converted by the Apostle St. Thomas to Christianity all Indians might have been like (the prototype) Syrian Christian Community - Christian yet specifically national.

Portuguese Bring Christianity (as Catholicism) into Goa

Christianity (as Catholicism) into Goa came into our country in a large way only after the 15th century alongwith the Portuguese Colonists. The Portuguese were Roman Catholics and when they reached Indian shores were still under the influence of the crusades and. the inquisition. In the early centuries of their rule in Goa, Daman and Diu they did make the use of force to effect conversions of the native Hindus to Christianity. A part of the early converts to Christianity were a result of the taking of Indian wives by the Portuguese officials. These converts were termed Mestizos (of mixed blood). To these were added the progeny of extra-marital relations between the colonial officials and the native womenfolk. The offspring of such relations were brought up as Roman Catholics. These facts have been recorded in the Portuguese records of the Colonial Period. The occurrence of aquiline features and fair skin in some Goan Christian families seems to be an inheritance of such relations.

In the early part of Portuguese rule, the Colonialists are also recorded to have forcibly converted temples into churches. As per local traditions in the villages around the Basilica of St. Francis Xavier near Panjim in Goa, There originally existed a Shiva temple on the site of the Basilica which was demolished by the colonial authorities to put up the Basilica. After the Shiva temple was destroyed the local populace constructed a small Shiva-linga nearby in memory of their temple. Till today this Shiva-linga is being worshipped and the age old tale is told to visiting tourists. All this is not being said with a new to unearth long forgotten events, but to record facts of the means used by a colonial power to implant its faith on Indian Soil.

It is well known generally that the Portuguese apart from being ardent proselytizers also observed strict racial segregation and followed a policy of discrimination against all native Indians whether Hindus or Christians. The emigration of some families of Goan Christians to Mangalore in the 16th century was a result of discriminatory treatment by the Portuguese. Even today there exists a significant Konkani speaking Roman Catholic community around Mangalore.

Most of the colonial churches were built as imposing structures, to overawe the locals. On the keystone of their domes was inscribed the royal insignia of the Portuguese king.

An attempt by Portugual to retain the colonial territories was thwarted by the Indian army when it marched into Goa and put an end to colonial rule in 1962.

The third segment of Indian Christians are the Protestants.

They form a minority among the Christian community and are a result of the Protestant Missionaries. The British colonialists largely kept away from proselytizing activities. Conversions to Christianity during British rule were mostly due to the activities of missionaries. Indian Christians have generally not lived a barrack-like existence like the Muslims. There has been a significant social interaction between the Hindus and Christians and the feeling of animosity that exists vis-a-vis the Muslims has been absent in the case of the Christians. As almost all Indian Christians are converts from Hinduism they display many traces of their pre-conversion culture.

Hindu Customs Among the Christian Community in India

To begin with Indian Christians, especially the Protestants have still preserved the surnames of their pre-conversion days. In many cases they also have Hindu first names. This makes them completely identical with the Hindus, at least externally. The reason could partly lie in the fact that many converts to Protestant Christianity were voluntary one's and belonged to the upper echelons of Hindu society. The conversion of the Rev . Vaman Narayan Tilak is one example. These voluntary converts to Christianity turned to that religion consequent to philosophical speculation. It is natural for such converts to preserve a strong nationalistic identity in spite of the conversion.

Marriage Customs Among the Indian Christians

But among all segments of Indian Christians the aspects of their social life, which has preserved their Indian roots as the manner of celebrating Christian festivals especially Christmas and their dress habits.

During Christmas and new Year festivities, it is common among Indian Christians to burst crackers, light lamps, exchange sweetmeats, draw designs with coloured powder outside their doorsteps, etc. All these practices have been a carryover from the Hindu festival of Diwali. If one goes to a Roman Catholic wedding one would see that a day before the wedding is to take place, the groom and his best man are given a special bath by the groom's relatives. In this bath the groom and his best man are smeared with milk, eggs yolk and scents. This custom is no doubt borrowed from the Hinduism where the groom is given a bath with Sandal-wood paste and Turmeric powder, a day before the wedding. The Christian practice of the best man pulling a chord to release a shower of tiny coloured thermocole balls on the bride and groom during the wedding festivities come very close to the Hindu custom of throwing vermillion coloured grains of rice on the couple during a traditional Hindu wedding. Even after the wedding, or after a death in the family, Christians in Goa follow the practice of mass feeding of beggars and poor people, this custom seems to be a carryover of the Hindu custom of feeding brahmins and poor people during any important social and religious function.

Caste among Indian Christians

Conversion to Christianity has not erased the caste system from the Christians. Christians still privately continue to refer to themselves by their caste affiliations like Prabhoos, Bamons, Kolis, Bhandaris, etc. and caste considerations are rarely absent during matchmaking especially among Christians in rural areas. Some Christian converts who were Brahmins originally still in some cases, wear the sacred thread though their number is less. But Christians commonly wear the black thread around their wrist as a good luck charm as do the Hindus. The belief of an evil eye and other taboos persist among the Christians and the method of warding off the effect of the evil eye i.e. Drishta as it is known among Hindus (or Nazar as it is called among the Muslims) is by circling a pinch of salt and chilli powder around the person who is believed to have been affected.

Christian women often wear sarees like their Hindu counterparts and some of them even wear bangles and apply the Hindu caste mark, Kum Kum or tilaka on their foreheads. The wearing of the Mangalsutra necklace among Protestant Christian women is obligatory after marriage, as it is among the Hindus. Some Christian families have continued their pre-conversion Practice of praying and asking for boons before Hindu deities during annual Festivals - though this is frowned upon by the Christian clergy.

The traditional Christian form of greeting each other by saying 'Peace be with you' is accompanied by the joining of hands which is an adaptation of the Hindu practice of Namaste. Even when praying Indian Christian carry flowers, and garlands to church. The practice of garlanding the cross and icons is a carryover of the Hindu practice of garlanding idols. In the west this practice is absent where only candles are lit before the Cross.

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