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To: Petz who wrote (80842)	11/23/1999 7:33:00 PM
From: Bill Jackson	Respond to of 1573824

Petz, I see: 1/3rd the memory at three times the price, sounds like a recipe for a fast down hill run. Bill

To: Petz who wrote (80842)	11/23/1999 9:19:00 PM
From: Paul Engel	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1573824

Petz - Re: "the bigger problem with RDRAM right now is that no one is selling RDRAM bigger than 128M, which means that those Camino-chipset motherboards are limited to 256M of RAM" Now there you go again - passing off ERRONEOUS INFORMATION !!! {===========================} Monday November 8, 8:09 am Eastern Time Company Press Release SOURCE: Kingston Technology Company Kingston Announces 256MB, 800MHz Rambus RIMM Modules Validated by Intel FOUNTAIN VALLEY, Calif., Nov. 8 /PRNewswire/ -- Kingston® Technology Company announced today immediate availability of 256MB, 800MHz Rambus® RIMM modules validated by Intel. This release reaffirms Kingston's support for Rambus memory solutions. The Kingston RIMM modules both ECC and non ECC utilize the latest revision, validated RDRAM components from leading global DRAM manufacturers. (Photo: newscom.com ) The 256MB RIMM modules provide workstation customers, high-density and high-bandwidth modules. ''Kingston's ability to provide the latest generation 256MB, 800MHz RIMM modules, reinforces our longstanding commitment to Rambus technology,'' stated Wai Szeto, vice president, Strategic Business Development, Kingston. ''Kingston's expertise in R&D, testing and manufacturing enabled the company to propel the release of the newest 256MB, 800MHz RIMM modules,'' added Szeto. Available immediately, the 256MB modules can initially be purchased in limited quantities directly through Kingston, by calling (877) 435-VRAM or by visiting the Kingston's web site at kingston.com. In addition to the 256MB modules, Kingston Technology will also offer 800MHz modules in densities of 128MB and 64MB. Kingston will offer a broad array of modules sizes depending on industry requirements. Today's announcement further emphasizes Kingston's commitment to future memory technologies, like Rambus. The release of RIMM modules for the Intel OR840 workstation motherboard last month, was a precursor to today's announcement. Kingston was first in the memory enhancement industry to start manufacturing, testing, and shipping Rambus modules starting in March 1998, and today has shipped more than 15,000 RIMM modules to OEMs and other customers. Kingston offers an industry-leading selection of validated RIMM modules, and is currently in production with RIMM modules compatible with Intel's OR840 workstation motherboard and other future motherboards. Kingston Technology has been working with Intel Corporation and Rambus Inc. since March 1998. As the leading independent manufacturer of memory modules, Kingston made an early and strategic decision to commit major resources to support next-generation memory technologies like Rambus' technology. Kingston has not only invested tens of millions in new manufacturing lines and high-end Hewlett-Packard® and Advantest® testers, but has also dedicated senior engineers to oversee all aspects of its Rambus program.

To: Petz who wrote (80842)	11/23/1999 11:44:00 PM
From: Bilow	Respond to of 1573824

Re The RAM makers want to start making 256 Meg chips organized as 64 Meg by 4 bits. The smallest standard SDRAM you could make with such chips is 512 megs. The smallest possible RDRAM using these chips would be 128 megs, because the bus width is only 16 bits. This is not true. SDRAM allows DIMMs as small as 128MB, just like the RDRAM. There is no granularity advantage to RDRAM with chips at the 256Mbit size: Actually, they are providing 32Mx8 and 16Mx16 as well as 64Mx4. The DIMM maker chooses which model according to how many chips they want to put on a single DIMM. Using the 16Mx16 chip, a DIMM could have as little as 128MB using four SDRAM chips. In addition, the three widths are in the same type package, a 54-pin 400mil TSOP: micron.com My guess is that it is a late stage in processing where the memory maker decides on which width to produce, so they can reduce the effective lead time. -- Carl