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To: Herc who wrote (7274)	11/24/1999 12:50:00 AM
From: David Perfette	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9068

Also I heard on Digital Jam last night that some "internet solutions" and even the Palm were attacking its ASP niche. I did not comprehend what the analyst was talking about. Herc, Your above statement doesn't make sense. Internet solutions, wired or wireless are not competitors, they are part of Citrix's potential market. For your information Citrix's ICA is available for Windows CE, ie. palm devices. citrix.com In summary, the thin client concept seems like a dumb idea to me now. And I'm pretty good at seeing the forest and not the trees. Sounds like a pretty convenient rationalization for not doing your homework. A little more substance and a little less intuition would be a good thing. -David P.

To: Herc who wrote (7274)	11/24/1999 7:58:00 AM
From: MikeM54321	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 9068

"This is what make me skeptical of the thin client concept." Herc, I understand your confusion, but my point is, MS Investor app is not a thin-client technology. Processing is done on your desktop. Not on the server. You may be confusing thin-client somewhat with ASP. In some respects, MS Investor may be construed as an ASP because it does store your data but technically they don't distribute apps as a true ASP would do. Now it's probably hard to pinpoint the MS Investor problems but this is the sort of thing that MetaFrame finds a solution for. Imagine hundreds of thousands of individual desktops running the full gamut from 10 year old machines to one only weeks old. With every processor ever made, in between. Now imagaine all hitting that website to try to download applets to run MS Investor. Imagine the communication difficulties involved with that. This is where MetaFrame (if it was really used) would shine. But it's also where MetaFrame may fail. Because it doesn't scale to the magnitude required for a public website that gets thousands of hits at a time. And this is Oracle's argument. Oracle wants to develop apps....nah. Not a good point. Oracle's 8i doesn't work quite the way I'm leading. It's a little more complicated. I'll skip the Oracle concept. But basically your frustration is an example of why I felt the, "older," Java concept of write once-run anywhere wouldn't work. That is the real point you are making and I happen to agree with you. Anyway, I hope you understand what I'm trying to say concerning MS Investor and why it's not a true, "thin-client," concept. MikeM(From Florida) PS The reason they wanted to make life more complicated is now you have the ability to go to Thailand, walk into a cyber-cafe, and pull up your portfolio. Anywhere you have access to a browser, you have access to your portfolio. Yahoo does the same thing. AOL does too. But they don't fail because Yahoo and AOL do just about zero processing because their portfolio is exteremely basic.