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To: Aggie who wrote (55413)	11/24/1999 11:37:00 PM
From: Think4Yourself	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 95453

I also have a small story. While open water swimming across a fairly large lake outside Tulsa OK this summer (~2 miles) I noticed bubbles coming to the surface. Having heard of 40 foot fish scaring the living snot out of maintenance divers at the nearby dam, I was admittedly fearful. Then I smelled the odor of gas (not like in your gas line) and realized it was methane bubbling up from the lake floor. Not sure I agree with your comments about nature doing more than man, unless you are talking about specific times when volcanoes are actively spewing (they definitely generate massive levels of greenhouse gasses). The world consumes, what, 75 MILLION barrels each and every day, not to mention the NG used and flared. I am having great difficulty agreeing a 1,204,500,000,000(365 day75,000,000bbl44 gal/bbl) Gallon pool of oil consumed EVERY year is "insignificant". Watching a recent Nova special about the Antarctic ice cores I was struck by their comments that the Carbon Dioxide levels in the ice have increased very dramatically in the top 50 year layer. Even the coal plants are significant. The following comment is direct from the EPA's statement regarding a lawsuit against only SEVEN utilities (17 plants) (note that these are EXCESS emissions): "Coal-burning power plants are major sources of nitrogen oxide, which produces ozone and smog that can cause asthma and other health problems. The Justice Department said the seven utilities' failure to install anti-pollution equipment resulted in about three million tons of harmful emissions annually."

To: Aggie who wrote (55413)	11/25/1999 12:44:00 PM
From: SliderOnTheBlack	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 95453

Aggie; great post on the Global Warming mythology Pure politically motivated scare-tatic psychobabble. Obviously; we must exercise concern for our environment. We do not want Mexican factories dumping chemicals into the Rio Grande, or Indian Factories spewing industrial & chemical residue onto their populace with zero emission concerns etc. but, this is entire Global Warming issue is a myth with only money-oriented & politically driven scientific research supporting this sky is falling drivel. Damn; your post and that point on Mt. Pinatubo was enough to make me get out my ole' oil burning, smoke belching chain saw and go cut down some tree's for my hyrocarbon residue spewing, but heat producing woodburner. Maybe, I'll even burn some leaves today after enjoying my Thanksgiving meal(VBG). And remember it's those damn cow farts from all of those Wisconsin Dairy Farms that emit more methane gas into the atmosphere than Industry ever will... eliminate the Cow and beef, cheese & milk - and no more methane gas. Just think what we could do for methane gas emmissions by banning baked beans, BBQ, Texas Chili & Schlitz Beer ~ Come to think about it; emissions during Thanksgiving have to be rather high... Could the "Algore" crowd move to ban Thanksgiving next ?