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Pastimes : Let's Talk About Our Feelings!!! -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: MSB who wrote (63976)	11/26/1999 8:41:00 PM
From: Grainne	Read Replies (5) \| Respond to of 108807

Oh, my goodness, Mike!! Has something horrible happened here in my absence? Thank you for the very interesting analysis about why I started Feelings, and what kind of thread I was hoping it would be. I am sensing it is not that at the moment, but have none of the details and would very much like to know. Could someone fill me in? It was very warm here late into the fall in San Francisco and I have been enjoying a long 3D reality break, something I recommend for everyone. It is getting cold here now, so there is no real point in sitting outside on the patio swing anymore.I just sold my ADSP stock today for 55 15/16 after keeping it like a pathetic dog in my portfolio for three years, where it seemed to usually be worth about $2.00, so I am feeling lucky and am in the market for a good small stock, and up and coming company that is not too risky and is a quick quadruple. I guess I need to be hanging around the computer doing research! Oh, I did discover ebay, and for all of you cyber addicts who have not yet been there I suggest you might want to skip it--it is as compelling as SI as a time suck, and you spend a lot of money as well. Obviously, much has transpired on the thread in the meantime, and not all happy things??? P.S. Joyeux anniversaire, M!

To: MSB who wrote (63976)	11/26/1999 9:38:00 PM
From: MSB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108807

Part II Bitch, Bitch, Bitch Never thought I'd see the day when I asked myself, "I wonder what it is those with children teach their kids." I remember seeing occasionally on tv the public service announcements where one actor or another will try to remind the viewer of different types of characteristics which are thought to be preferable virtues of individual behavior. Then I read this thread and think Corrections Corp. is probably a good long term investment, because it certainly seems to me that no matter how much specific attributes are thought to be desired qualities, so few people actually make any effort to exhibit such characteristics. Is the above a fair assessment? (Okay, maybe a bit over done) "I don't take shit off of anybody", "I'm not going to be confined to your definition of right and wrong", "You're a <insert bias here>, and I've found I don't care for such people and you're probably just like them", or "Yeah, well who the fuck are you" come to my mind as responses which may be pointedly expressed, or suggested in a variety of ways as to why it is that there seems to be contention amongst individuals. But I think it is something else entirely. I think it is the easy way out--bell rings, dog drools. People are some of the funnest and/or funniest conscience beings to watch perhaps mostly because those doing the watching can relate or pick up on certain behavior patterns since it stands to reason such behaviors are common and recognizable to our speci. However, watching others interact ignores so often the fact that one is also being watched with regard to social interaction. And by golly, creatures of habit we are when it comes to social interaction. Personality, as I'm no doubt sure is known to many, is an ongoing process of change shaped largely by environmental influences. If one were to take a controlled group of say mice, and constantly antagonize them with certain stimuli known to irritate, it doesn't take a person with much education at all to see that one is likely to produce a mean-ass bunch of rats. Taking the above illustration and applying it to the thread's history of periodic turmoil does it not stand to reason that one should, knowing one could at one time be in the shoes of another, try to exhibit a majority of social characteristics generally pleasing to others with whom one chooses to interact? I have noted the following over the course of my membership tenure on this site: Politics, religion, and sex invaribly will cause differences of opinion which will often cross the boundries of civility. Politics, religion, and sex will undoubtedly be factors which influence the opinions submitted on a variety of sub-topics. People in any loosely or close knit group will never agree with one another 100% of the time. People in any group will undoubtedly find some who rub them the wrong way. People will divide along lines when confronted with ongoing controversy. People will resort to all manner of tactics to try to persuade a group against an individual. People will seek to control situations. Most people don't know when to shut the fuck up, or feel they must have the last word. People rarely treat others as they wish others to treat them. People love to gossip or talk about the inferiority of others with regard to <insert bias here> Suggestions for retaining a generally pleasing thread decorum: Submit your opinion and then leave it alone. Opinions are subject to bias with regard to an ever changing majority. Take time to fully express your opinion. Be willing to see another's points. Quality conversation is never one sided, imo. If you find yourself sensing what seems to be an unwarrented amount of negative sentiment towards you, give the thread a rest and seek a more compatible atmosphere to interact with others. The majority of people, I've found, will usually tend to forego certain memories of incidents if one does not seek to constantly try to make others feel one way is the only way. Don't go looking to see what others might be inferring about you on other threads. Trouble sought is often found. Fight the urge to commiserate with others who feel "put upon" by another. Along the same lines, do not seek the acceptance of others by agreeing with an individual about something which is considered an undesirable characteristic of another. If you simply feel you must do so, use the Private Messaging option available to members. Nobody I know of likes to be insinuated about publicly. Keep in mind, someday it could just as easily be you. If two people are clearly not willing to let a subject go and the situation is obviously turning into a fight, then keep the fight contained to the two parties. Expressing opinions "for" or "against" is more likely to draw one into it rather than help aleviate the conflict. If one is seeking lasting relationships with those one seeks to interact with, a humble spirit will win one more admiration than those who employ an "in your face" style of interaction. Be willing to take shit off of people lest you become known as someone who can dish it out, but can't take it. No one I've ever met is the foremost authority on any subject. Some simply know more than others. Be willing to admit you're wrong when you know it. Most opinions are far more likely to be submitted based on a sense of personal observation rather than fact. Give others the same latitude. If however there are those who rub you the wrong way don't exaserbate the situation. Chances are you also do the same to others. No one, I've ever found, is liked by a unanimous majority. Don't take what might be negative situations in your 3-D life out on others on the thread. You have as much right as anyone else to express an opinion on whatever subject you choose be it one currently discussed, a past issue, or an issue which is something you feel deeply about even though a majority may feel other wise. Feel free to remind me that I'm the one that submitted this when it is with out a doubt obvious I'm acting to the contrary. Be prepared to accept the same from me should you feel the need to do the aforementioned. Nobody is perfect. End of ...................................opinion. Regardless of the spelling and sentence structure I can only hope I made some invaluable points. Mike B. (a nine smoke post)