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To: Spartex who wrote (29143)	11/26/1999 3:04:00 PM
From: ToySoldier	Respond to of 42771

Quad, I didnt think ICS was a ZEN because ICS is a pure raw Internet Caching appliance and Directory enablement is not part of the product's highlight. BUT - that brings up the question of what exactly is the qualification of a ZEN. Technically it stands for "Zero Effort Networking" and ICS might fall into that definition, but, I always assumed that a ZEN was a product that effectively leveraged the NDS - i.e. ZENWorks. MYFREEBOX might be considered a ZEN but it technically is still in Beta and it was an accident that it was made public. But off the tip of my tongue, I cannot recall others. Toy

To: Spartex who wrote (29143)	11/27/1999 1:05:00 PM
From: Scott C. Lemon	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 42771

Hello Quad, > Orignal was ZENworks, right? Right ... so this one doesn't count ... > Then Caching (ICS) Hmmm ... I'd have to think about that one. ICS is really just a customized BorderManager and has been out for quite a while. I guess that if needed, they could try to throw that into the count ... > Single Sign On > digitalme Ok ... so that's 2 or 3 depending on how ICS fits in ... > Those are the ones that come to mind off the top of my head. I'd > have to wade through previous press releases to maybe find a few > others. I believe there are about 5 that still need to be announced > over the next few months. For a total of ten, there would have to be 7 or 8 that are announced ... I'll keep looking also ... but now they shifted to the end of January, instead of the end of the year. So they bought more time ... Scott C. Lemon