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To: mark silvers who wrote (28240)11/28/1999 12:38:00 AM
From: Berry Picker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 39621
 
Gee I only get 3 choices... this is real tough :-}



To: mark silvers who wrote (28240)11/28/1999 5:26:00 PM
From: Berry Picker  Respond to of 39621
 
RE>>1. God was a poor comunicator, unable to render coherency upon his targeted audience.<<

You have a little clue to the answer right within your proposition so you're not as blind as you make yourself out to be.

The Clue ??? .... Intended Audience !

Matthew 13:10 And the disciples came, and said unto him, Why speakest thou unto them in parables?

Jesus plainly teaches that He speaks in a way intended to confound carnal men. Indeed the Bible is written so that only those who are granted the HOLY SPIRIT through the Born-again ( from above ) experience have any hope of truly understanding look at the next verse.

Matthew 13:11 He answered and said unto them, Because it is given unto you to know the mysteries of the kingdom of heaven, but to them it is not given.

Now are "those to whom it is given" the ones your talking about Mark ? Are you talking about me and the Elect men I know being in some form of confusion ? Why judge ye us by those who are without. To whom God has intended confusion ?

Psalm 2:4 He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.

It would seem to me to be very much manifest proof that it is indeed the Word of God
when for centuries we who are the saved understand most easily what God is saying and those who do not, are not, and CAN NOT !

Why Judge God when He has made it plain that this was His very intent ?

If you do not understand you will be judged for not really trying to understand but those who never do not it is because they cannotfor that they will not be judged !

Jesus speaks of two different Types of people who were BOTH IN THE CHURCHES !

John 10:26 But ye believe not, because ye are not of my sheep, as I said unto you.
27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

RE>>humanity not one iota closer to a consensus<<
"Humanity" ?

Here Jesus has plainly given men a self declared reason for a lack of "consensus".

The World is humanity and the world hath no part in God.

What good is CONSENSUS ? Are the majority always right Mark ? Are you that blinded by the pride of man ?

======= Germany had far more than 51% in favor of exterminating Jews. =======
Many of them professed to be Christian. Am I judged by them ? Who says so ... YOU ?

Both Canada and the U.S.A. and England turned those same Jews away when they sought refuge ! Did they not want them done away with as well... Does a "Consensus" stipulate what is RIGHT ? Why then did we judge them as war criminals if it is not a Holy God that determines Good and Evil.... are we really as satan promised.....LIKE GODS ?

Genesis 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

Let's vote on killing babies...... Sin one week - not the next... that is the wisdom of sinful and Godless "humanity"

Mark you are so plainly falling for such stupid demonic lies and yet thinking yourself wise it is really quite astounding for those of us who see the truth to watch. Yet. at heart, we do not boast ourselves against your condition of spiritual death...

Ephesians 2:12 That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:

No Mark... do not judge me or any of "His" according to the misunderstandings of those who are without God and yet in the visible Church !
=== Remember it was the Visible Church that put Jesus to death ! ===
Look for a consensus among the true yokemen Look for understanding of the Father among His Sons and do not ask the servants.

God's Word was written for ME and my Brothers... we know what Jesus says..
We know what Jesus meant when He said it..... we HEAR HIS VOICE LOUD and CLEAR!

John 10:27 My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:

The Visible Church is in a state of confusion.... but it is not because the Bible and God's word are lacking... it is of divine design and God's Intent to blind the eyes of those whom He does not love..It is PLAIN

2 Thessalonians 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion,that they should believe a lie:

Romans 11:7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded

Israel hath not obtained.... the Church Visible hath not attained...

Do not Judge we who hear by those who are ordained to NOT HEAR !

You were quite right indeed and God hath ordained for you to speak the truth in this...

========== Intended Audience ==========

You have merely misjudged who that INTENDED audience is :-}

John 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness.

What verse are you having trouble with Mark ?

Is it all a big philosophical game Mark ?