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To: Elmer who wrote (81316)	11/29/1999 12:16:00 AM
From: Cirruslvr	Respond to of 1572619

Elmer - RE: "Willamette is a new generation, not a tweak to an existing core." Same with Athlon vs. Coppermine "Intel has demonstrated they can manufacture HUGE on die caches." But how many of those PA-RISC chips does Intel make for HP? Much less than how many Celeron/Coppermine prosessors they make, and more than likely less than how ever many Xeons Intel makes. Also, those chips cost at least $10,000, right? Low yields can easily be masked by a high price. How do we know yields are great, or even decent? "Intel is neck 'n neck with AMD in MHz on a core that doesn't use a deep pipeline, which the Athlon does have. Willamette will have that deep pipeline too." Tech-savy websites have said the Athlon's pipeline (10 stages?) is a good design that should scale well. If AMD can reach 700MHz on an enhanced .25 micron process how much can they reach with .18 and then copper .18? AMD has to keep up with Willy until Sledgehammer comes out. It may or may not happen, but I wouldn't count it out as people like me had previously counted Coppermine out. Intel may have an advantage if they start Willy on the .13 process. But look how the change from .25 Katmai to .18 Coppermine has gone, and that wasn't even a completely new design...

To: Elmer who wrote (81316)	11/29/1999 12:31:00 AM
From: Ali Chen	Respond to of 1572619

Fudd, <Intel is neck 'n neck with AMD in MHz on a core that doesn't use a deep pipeline, which the Athlon does have.> You are a shameless manipulator. People here are tired of your blatant lies. Pentium-III/Pro has integer/floating pipeline 12/14 stages (13 on average), Athlon has 10/15 =12.5 average. From your other post: <In addition, the CuMine had already seen Silicon before any news of Athlon was out,> So you are claiming that Flopppermine has been through several modifications since, so the last Great Stellar Launch was not an accident but rather a typical CXT syndrome? Very "smart" reporting on your part. Thank you for very good news!