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To: jim kelley who wrote (23552)11/29/1999 5:26:00 PM
From: Charles Tutt  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
Sun has operated in a competitive environment for as long as I can remember, and has done pretty darn well. Furthermore, there has been a long line of doomsayers here warning us that Wintel (in whatever form is just over the horizon at the time) is about to obliterate Sun. Hasn't happened. About the time >8-way Intel-based machines become viable, Sun will be announcing 1000-way SPARC boxes.

JMHO.



To: jim kelley who wrote (23552)11/29/1999 7:22:00 PM
From: cheryl williamson  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
You're a pinhead with an attitude and you don't know what
you're talking about. Can the trash talk about Sun's
products and come up with some REAL, QUANTIFIABLE data
about its competition's products and this thread can
begin a serious discussion. Until then, you're just
another gum-flapping nitwit yammering about how Wintel
somehow, someway is going to prevail in all the major
markets now dominated by SUNW.




To: jim kelley who wrote (23552)11/29/1999 7:50:00 PM
From: paul  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 64865
 
"..RE:
SUNW is an inefficient manufacturer of expensive proprietary boxes"

any one feel like were in a time warp here circa 1996 regarding Merced..er I mean Itanium (Titanium? Titanicum? McKinley?) and Win2K (NT? NT Data Center(ha!)?, yadda, yadda, yadda - wow the world has changed a lot in 4 years and all we got from the wintel camp in this time is new product names. 64 way IA-32 based systems have been around for years, notably by Sequent. Unisys and Data General have had 32 way systems for a while with 0 impact upon Sun - have you checked the investment grade of these companies recently?

# of applications for Merced = 0
# of installations using Merced = 0
# of times Merced is supposedly going to eat Sun's lunch = significantly higher number than question 1 or 2



To: jim kelley who wrote (23552)11/29/1999 8:59:00 PM
From: Thomas Mercer-Hursh  Respond to of 64865
 
You seem to have missed the point of the post:

Nope, I just wasn't responding to that aspect of the post. Merely commenting on your characterization as being off the mark since neither do I think that the revenue comes from workstations, nor do I think Sun RISC servers (or HP for that matter) are really that comparable to anything you can get from an Intel PC maker.