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To: wily who wrote (4257)	12/1/1999 3:55:00 PM
From: Ray	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 8393

Hi, Wily -- welcome back. Thanks for the CDDD stuff, I too am suspicious. Other posts on the SI CDDD board suggest shady characters at work, that the demo appeared rigged and clumsily hosted by someone who knew essentially nothing about the tech, and the VSE is in the picture to add to the aroma. Somehow, I think there is no threat to DVD from the CDDD technology; but it pays to keep one's eyes open.

To: wily who wrote (4257)	12/1/1999 4:17:00 PM
From: Krowbar	Respond to of 8393

Wily, the CDDD story is starting to look like a B movie. Here's a report from somebody who saw their technology demo yesterday.... Anyways here is what I saw at the show 1. There was no explaination of how the different layers are read, what I understand is that the laser hits the refractive material and give off a optical response that is picked up by a sensor. I do not understand how the laser is able to skim down to the lower layers without hitting the above layers and giving a response. After all this is the whole basis of the technology. Its still 1 and 0 marked by imprints picked up by normal CD like devices. The mechanism to be able to shoot a laser predictably at specific levels of a sandwhiched layer of opticaly clear, but market with florecence signatures...........um well it does not sound like a cheap device even if it is able to be made. What I was thinking was that each layer would have a different florecent signature on each layer, but nothing like that was presented. 2. The card reader will need something within it to change the lasers position in order to hit the various spot, this is not addressed at all, this makes most of the card reader look like a non-product. In the demo the showed the image of the 1 and 0s then translated into a paragraph of text. Anything with the data capabilites the card should be showing at a minimum a large JPG file. 3. Does the technolgy work, of course, on a simple level, you can mark digital information and read it with whatever manner you want, is what we saw real, no I don't think so. Clearly real people may be working on the physics, but the demo today was bullshit. 4. Within the card readers were some cute lighted bars that had nothing to do with anything, except to give the appearance of laser refractions. This gave it the look and feel of the mirrored laser scaners in the supermarket. 5. The video deni has ultra low production qualites, and the information provided was silly. 6. The guy running the music demo (which should have been animation at the very least, the music could have simply been .wav files or mp3 files played directly from the computer) keep on moving the mouse around as if he was doing something, he was not, but he kept on nervously moving the mouse and talking to the big fat guy next to him. When he was ask to change the trace and he clicked to do it amazingly the sound did not change. 7. The guy that asked him about if off the shelf lasers diodes could be used, was given a strange answer. The question was to how many milliwatts lasers would be used. He was answered with we will use a 1 watt laser. I am no expert but I believe a 1 watt laser is very powerful, like powerful enought to melt the plastic casing of the CD media. Not sure though. 8. The control device for the how Audio portion was a Radio Shack mixer. Sure it could change the volume, or select between different imputs, but how it could actualy change the way the laser read is beyond me. 9. The audience was stacked with insiders from the company. The questions were terrible, and showed a real lack of serious people, perhaps the other showing had more people. 10. Now this is the funniest one, and you had to be really perceptive to catch it. I was rolling with a straight face on this one. The main CEO guy at the beginning had the Freudian slip of the year. He said. "We are corrupt..COOPERATING with many blah blah blah. It was like a confession, i was rolling. Sure give it to him as an english as a second language guy...LOL << Read the rest of the post for more juicy details about the promoters. >> Message 12155182 Del