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To: Jamey who wrote (28298)	12/2/1999 11:19:00 PM
From: Berry Picker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 39621

The problem I encounter teaching that the will is far from free and that men are saved by the Work of God alone is that they response with the assumption that I am teaching men have no will. Jesus admonishes men to "act" ie REPENT ! That requires an act of the will but a man cannot will to have the "spiritual gift of repentance." At that point they find what I say utterly confusing. We are ordained both to will and do of His good pleasure but we must Will 'knowing' that it is God working within us. Those who will nothing cannot assume that God is working in fact that is evidence that God is not working within them. I find it astounding how many people hate the very word "predestinate" when it is clearly in the Bible. Phil 2:12 Wherefore, my beloved, as ye have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. 13 For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure. These verses are not ABSENT of WILL but they are certainly not teaching FREE WILL.