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To: MonsieurGonzo who wrote (7338)	12/3/1999 2:56:00 AM
From: Berney	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11051

MG, Re: Buttons and Levers or Push me, Pull you! Make no mistake about it, I firmly embrace the capitalistic system. Further, if I were Bill Gates, I would seriously consider buying an island somewhere, establish the Republic of Microsoft, and tell Billy's DOJ where to go! If I were a corporate CEO, why would I want to put up with Gore's environmental extremism, a joke of a legal system, antiquated labor rules, etc., etc. It is a Big world. Further, this is a Republic and not a Democracy. As a Republic, it represents IMHO, the tyranny of the minority. Clearly, "we" look at technology as our edge, while the "third" world countries look as labor as their advantage. Hard to reconcile the two. Let me provide a personal example. Our youngest son is getting more independent and my bride is trying to re-enter the workforce. She has an Associates Degree in secretarial science. As many others, in a very short period of time, the world has past her by. She can type a wicked letter on one of those classic Selectrics and probably could even do some short hand. Skills that were abolished about 15 years ago. Actually, it's her own fault. We've had computers in the house since 1981, both sons consider them a toy, and she had every opportunity to find a way to incorporate them into her life. That said, she took the college class with our youngest son this past summer, and is moving into the "age" real fast. However, she's not a happy camper and she votes! Finally, being a third generation type, I have no problem with the concept of immigration. However, I do believe that we teach our schools in English, and require that these folks produce! TB

To: MonsieurGonzo who wrote (7338)	12/3/1999 1:45:00 PM
From: smolejv@gmx.net	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 11051

>>What we need to do is open up our immigration policy, cream off the best of the foreign workers from EuroLand and Asia << Fact is, they are taking over the Ivy League (see student mix of say Harvard; ditto for McKinsey entrants for instance). Is that not going too far for a normal, democratically oriented republican? Re Seattle, Steve: we used to have our own 68 / Hair / Woodstock times. Remember Nam? Canada? Birmingham AL? Give the others a chance at democracy (Amendment I) too. The only problem we have, we seem to have moved to the other side of the generation fence. Free flow of capital? Fine with me. But let's be rational. Go for free flow of human capital as well. Give them/ guarrantee them same basic kind of (labour, human) rights. This is what US is trying to get the world agree to. Nice positive surprise for me(maybe I read it wrong, whatever). The problem is only, its the governments ie executive branches (in those cases where you CAN talk about normal states) and not the legislatures. But it will come. Give NGOs their chance. Soon we should have 4part state power: legislative/judicial/executive and consultative As long as Y2K does not screw up on us. Thank God the Jewish Y6K is still 436 years away, so Charlene Barshevsky can do her job. dj Darn. dj