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To: one_less who wrote (64763)12/2/1999 3:27:00 PM
From: epicure  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 108807
 
You really (imo) need to look at in with the eyes of the people alive at the time. Indians did not live with most whites- especially not in the big cities. They were curiosities. And they were looked at either as "noble savages" or as impediments to settlers (very few people were liberal enough or had enough knowledge of the Indians- to grasp how varied the Indian cultures were OR how rich and complicated their cultures were - at this period in time all cultures were considered inferior to the Western European culture.)

This is not to say the Indians had no champions among whites- but as with the abolitionists, the champions tended to be Eastern liberals and they didn't have much impact.



To: one_less who wrote (64763)12/2/1999 3:38:00 PM
From: jbe  Respond to of 108807
 
Brees, here is a nice little guide to the history of the development of the "Manifest Destiny" doctrine:

odur.let.rug.nl

What I think we have to realize is that historically, most members of the "educated elite" have been racist/classist/sexist/you name it, without thinking of themselves as being in the least bit "evil."

In mid-19th century America, for example, most people had no problem with newspaper articles proclaiming the innate superiority of Anglo-Saxons, and their duty to subjugate the continent (especially since at that time most of them were Anglo-Saxon). You wouldn't dare argue that today in a reputable publication (even if you thought it)!



To: one_less who wrote (64763)12/2/1999 4:27:00 PM
From: Ilaine  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 108807
 
Having grown up in the Deep South during segregation, I have a hard time accepting that the educated elite intended the barbaric evil perpetrated against black people, but they did, and I saw it with my own eyes, and heard it with my own ears. Schoolteachers, college professors, doctors, lawyers, business owners, ministers. Not all, but most, the vast majority, not only went along with the status quo, but mouthed unspeakable aphorisms to justify their acts to themselves.