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To: Frank_Ching who wrote (5976)	12/5/1999 10:51:00 PM
From: Francois Goelo	Read Replies (6) \| Respond to of 10354

GOOD BYE, SHORT SELLING BASHERS... 10SB nearly there AND clipcloppers (CLOPF) face precedent-setting judge's ban... Global Investment.com Financial Inc.... by Brent Mudry Although his equestrian promotion is trading at a pedestrian 20 U.S. cents on the OTC Bulletin Board, Vancouver stock promoter John Henry is making a name for himself and clipclop.com in the embryonic field of Internet media law. After a brief court hearing on Tuesday, Mr. Henry's lawyer Darrell Roberts emerged with a precedent-setting injunction, good for eight days, which if it stands and spreads, could slow down busy Internet stock chat sites to a virtual crawl. A sampling of clipclop chatter that has Mr. Henry up on his high horse is the usual chat room drivel in which posters routinely call those they do not like, crooks, crooked promoters, stock manipulators, hypesters, string-pullers, dot.com-crazed followers, public dupers, yo-yos, pump and dumpers, grandiose planners and evidently any other insult that comes to mind. In an ex-parte hearing, without any representation by the defendants, Mr. Justice Peter Fraser ordered Stockhouse Media and Raging Bull to immediately remove a series of unflattering messages and forbid the five anonymous posters from making any further contributions. After a 45-minute crash course on the Internet, chat sites, stock promotions and related legal issues from Mr. Roberts, a senior Vancouver lawyer with the firm Roberts & Baker, Judge Fraser found himself in virtually-uncharted territory in Internet law. The decision is a first in Canada. Mr. Roberts notes the Internet is so new that he was unable to cite any similar previous Canadian decisions, and he now knows of just two U.S. cases in which Yahoo Finance was sued last year by companies seeking to unmask anonymous posters. It is not yet known what the outcome of either case was. The suit was filed in court last Friday, the ex-parte hearing was held on Tuesday morning, and the judge rendered his decision that afternoon. Mr. Roberts notes that ex-parte cases require a "very stringent test," and after mulling over the case at lunch on Tuesday and hearing some further brief submissions afterwards from Mr. Roberts, Judge Fraser quickly handed down his decision, in the form of oral reasons. The judge's decision is not yet available in written form, but a notable quote is. Whoever WaveyDavey is, he feels free to throw around serious allegations "cowardly hiding behind the screen of an alias," Judge Fraser told Mr. Roberts and the lawyers' junior, the only counsel present in the courtroom. In his decision Tuesday afternoon, Judge Fraser ordered Stockhouse and Raging Bull to immediately remove messages written on their Web sites by WaveyDavey, Wavey, garpike, Montero and Cook 81, but by Thursday afternoon a number of the offending messages remained untouched. The Canadian judge also ordered the clipclop five to stop publishing messages, especially unflattering ones, and ordered the two sites to disallow the quintet from making such postings. Mr. Roberts notes that Stockhouse was served with his suit on Monday, the day before the hearing, and it was served with the judge's order late Wednesday or on Thursday. U.S. service is a trickier feat, however. The clipclop.com lawyer notes that Boston-based Raging Bull was not served with the suit prior to the hearing, and service of the court order by a U.S. agent is in the works. Stockhouse and Raging Bull may get a chance to tell their side of the story and explain their version of the exploding Internet soon. (Stockwatch first reported on the innovative suit on Monday.)

To: Frank_Ching who wrote (5976)	12/6/1999 6:12:00 PM
From: Francois Goelo	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 10354

AMEX + ASIA4SALE DIVIDEND = SHORT SELLING BASHERS KAPUT! AMEX is what we were discussing earlier, as it has many advantages, the main one being the prohibition of "naked shorting"... I'd say we'll probably get the 10SB accepted by the end of this week or the next and on to AMEX or NASDAQ... Soon see $25.00+, based on excellent earnings due to the Spin-off of Asia4Sale that should add at least $5+ Millions to the bottom line.... That should get us well above the EPS of 32 cents I had been predicting all along... Darn, always on the Conservative side!!... JMHO, F. Goelo + + +

To: Frank_Ching who wrote (5976)	1/4/2000 11:33:00 PM
From: StockDung	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10354

Frank, did Tobin really tell you Amber Securities owed Ziasun $210,000 or were you lying? By: onewhoknows Reply To: 15551 by Frank_Ching Tuesday, 4 Jan 2000 at 11:05 PM EST Post # of 15555 Any chance of you picking up the phone and finding out who? You have been known to talk to the right people and get the right information. Remember this? ragingbull.com By: Frank_Ching Reply To: 7654 by onewhoknows Wednesday, 11 Aug 1999 at 12:04 AM EDT Post # of 15551 This morning, I called Mr. Tobin, ZiaSun's President .... Mr. Tobin who was in Hong Kong, is the President of ZiaSun and I did manage to speak with him regarding this subject. I asked him if there was still any connection between ZiaSun and Amber Securities? He replied "absolutely not". He also said that Momentum Internet Inc., a ZiaSun subsidiary, was in the process of taking legal action against Amber Securities to recover US$ 210,000 in fees owing. Frank Ching. We are still waiting for news re the lawsuit and thank god theres no connection. Or this one? ragingbull.com By: Frank_Ching Reply To: 7657 by CyberGal Wednesday, 11 Aug 1999 at 1:28 AM EDT Post # of 15551 In my conversation with Mr. Tobin earlier on, I asked him about the similarities of these two pages. He said that the similarity on the first page and other pages is because World Trade Financial (formerly Amber Securities) had "borrowed" some graphics and layouts from the Swiftrade website, without permission or consultation. Mr. Tobin said that the similarity with the login page is because both West America and World Trade clear their leads through a respected clearing house in San Francisco and the login page comes from their system. He also said that the London and Hong Kong services soon to be launched on Swiftrade would operate with systems developed by Momentum Internet which is a ZiaSun subsidiary. Frank Ching. Or this? ragingbull.com By: Frank_Ching Reply To: None Thursday, 16 Sep 1999 at 11:42 AM EDT Post # of 15551 Interesting news ... I called my new friend at Momentum, the web guy I met recently at a party in Hong Kong, to ask him if he had heard anything about the case against the SSBs. He was a bit cagey, but said that he had heard one of the directors saying that Zsun was considering a settlement with two of the defendents, but not with the rest of them. He said he heard that the company had been gathering evidence against all of them and had been able to get copies of some of their trading records. Not sure exactly what he meant as he didn't want to tell me more saying he was only telling me what he'd picked up around the office. He's a web developer, not in management. But he did also day he'd heard that the company had obtained some damaging evidence against a broking firm in LA and their HK agents who were involved in shorting the stock. Couldn't get any more info today because of the typhoon here. Frank Ching. How about this one? ragingbull.com By: Frank_Ching Reply To: None Wednesday, 29 Sep 1999 at 2:44 AM EDT Post # of 15552 IMPORTANT READING ... I called the Momentum/ZiaSun office in Hong Kong and spoke to Mr Tobin this morning. I asked him about the possibility of a large number of shares coming into the market next month, as is being suggested by some bashers on this board. Mr Tobin said that this is just an attempt by the bashers to panic investors. He said that all senior managers were committed to the company for the long-term, and assured me that there would be no wholesale dumping of shares in October or any time in the future. Frank Ching. Thank God you keep us informed! me

To: Frank_Ching who wrote (5976)	1/4/2000 11:42:00 PM
From: StockDung	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 10354

Frank, while Briggs and Cragun were robbing your fellow citizens over in your country with fake IPO's I was just wondering how your conscious is? Also what do you think about the emails I posted from the people that got ripped off by these boiler rooms? I have never heard you comment on the fake IPO. We have been waiting for your opinion. What is you explaination for this? "Buyer Beware" maybe? ZSUN/Bestway Offering Memorandum Released fortunecity.com Bryant D. Cragun 2/7/97 Oxford International Management, Inc letter / BeSt Way, Inc 1997 Initial Public Offering / Carlisle Enterprises Inc eff 4/21/97 N/C from Bestway eff 5/5.97 N/C to Ziasun Technologies eff 9/16/98