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To: E. Davies who wrote (17667)	12/8/1999 12:13:00 AM
From: Frank A. Coluccio	Respond to of 29970

Eric, you bring up many good points. For a dose of sanity on these issues, without the spin and the posturing, go to: Message 12219617 Note that the authors in this article actually consider real world requirements and future expectations with respect to enhanced forms of time critical services, such as voice, video conferencing, and real world network elements. And these, as you suggest, are demanding of QoS/CoS considerations. And lots more. Pleashe! Don't get me started on security! Enjoy, Frank

To: E. Davies who wrote (17667)	12/8/1999 11:10:00 AM
From: Jay Lowe	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 29970

>> Is there any precidence for non-regulated reselling of service to your primary competitors? Microsoft. I know this is a peculiar analogy, but consider how Microsoft sells both the platform and applications running on it. This has not been without abuse, stress, and occasional outrage, but it has obviously worked to create a relatively stable platform on which a lively competition has prospered. ATHM could be in the MSFT position ... selling platform access ... and also selling applications on top of it. In this case, <platform = IP access> and <application = content service> I see this as quite a robust analogy. Some ISPs may yearn to penetrate the IP veil, just as many developers wanted to penetrate the API veil. Even QoS and provisioning map to parallel concepts in the OS/application interaction ... the mapping being guided by the bandwidth = OS structure metaphor. Note how defending the API veil has placed Microsoft in a key position in the hardware world. Almost no one does PC hardware anymore without regard for Microsoft specs. ATHM management, however, is not Microsoft management. hard to beat the Microsoft guys at knowing how to turn a buck at design time.