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To: truedog who wrote (2627)12/8/1999 11:57:00 PM
From: Berry Picker  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 4775
 
NO! Predestined to believe also.

Romans 8:30 Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
31 What shall we then say to these things? If God be for us, who can be against us?
32 He that spared not his own Son, but delivered him up for us all, how shall he not with him also freely give us all things?
33 Who shall lay any thing to the charge of God's elect? It is God that justifieth.

Predestined ( the first step )then called then justified then glorified.( In Heaven the last step )

Predestined from the beginning of the world.

John 10:16 And other sheep I have, which are not of this fold: them also I must bring, and they shall hear my voice; and there shall be one fold, and one shepherd.

He already has other sheep ( predestined elect ) not of this fold ( us dumb gentiles ) must bring (call) hear his voice ( believe ) be one fold ( justified ) Same process in simple talk for farmers.

Other sheep I HAVE it's a done deal for the Elect of God. They will be saved by the power of the Holy Ghost.

Omnipotent means all powerful even to save :-}