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To: Mr. Big who wrote (41288)	12/8/1999 4:52:00 PM
From: Dugout	Respond to of 108040

Mr. Big, get Cyber!!!!!!! VRTL up 2 1/2 after hours

To: Mr. Big who wrote (41288)	12/8/1999 4:58:00 PM
From: Joe Hoek	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108040

Big - I use Fidelity and they've been good. $30 for limit orders as opposed to $12 for Waterhouse, but with your BIG trades $18 shouldn't matter, and I haven't had any problems with delays etc so far. Heard good things about AB Watley. So did everyone quietly sell NTPL? I held - not sure if I made the right move - the selling at the end did not drop it any more - so tomorrow should tell. Big your out of NTPL? Holding ACOM?

To: Mr. Big who wrote (41288)	12/8/1999 5:00:00 PM
From: SouthFloridaGuy	Respond to of 108040

Cyber sucks. I don't recommend it.

To: Mr. Big who wrote (41288)	12/8/1999 5:00:00 PM
From: westpacific	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108040

Also moving out of TD (so tired of them), lets here thoughts on Cyber - have not heard of them. Fidelity is $19 if you carry a large balance, not $30.

To: Mr. Big who wrote (41288)	12/8/1999 5:26:00 PM
From: BRANDYBGOOD	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108040

VRTL?????????????

To: Mr. Big who wrote (41288)	12/8/1999 5:39:00 PM
From: Dustin	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 108040

Mr. Big, I've used Realtick, Tradecast, and CyberTrader...and Cyber wins hands down. Puff for what reasons don't you like Cyber? The software is great, executions great, customer service...well you know.

To: Mr. Big who wrote (41288)	12/8/1999 5:42:00 PM
From: KevinMark	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 108040

Big? I just went throught the same ordeal. Here's the skinny. AB Watley: is a full service broker and uses Real tick III and is simple to use because you can click on any MM in L2 and it loads your order. You then have a choice how to route that order. Commissions begin at 23.95 per ticket and decrease according to # of tickets to 16.95 for top volume customers. They have tons of servers in various locations and are rarely down. When they are down, you can place orders through a broker. Cybertrader/Cyber X: is not a full service broker. There software is completely different. They have many unique features, such as a Hammer window, 3d graphics window-for setting your own parameters, stock that hit your parameters show up as large or small spheres depending on how close they meet your request. Top ten NYSE/NASDAQ decliners/gainers real time continuous quotes, streaming dynamic trades on the NYSE/NASDAQ window, and a window that shows streaming 52 wk high/lows of a stock, differentiated by color. You cannot at this time click on the MM in L2 with them. They both use smart keys. I use Cyber X for now, which is a scale down version to learn how to use the ECN's. Commissions are only 14.95 as well. I feel Cybertrader will benefit me more in the future by the various windows you can add to your system. Although, I still feel AB Watley is easier for newbies who never have traded through or to ECN's before. However, I cannot justify $50 a roundtrip in the learning stage. I fully expect to use Cybertrader next month. Cybercorp wants you to have at least 1 month experience using ECN's. BTW-I had feed problems with them yesterday afternoon around 3:30pm, and discovered I could only close out positions. They wouldn't allow me to open any. I missed a few that I wanted to take home. You can download both Cybertrader/X simulators and practice. AB Watley allows you to see how their software works on the web. Happy trading. abwatley.com cybercorp.com