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To: Petz who wrote (82493)12/9/1999 2:15:00 PM
From: Elmer  Respond to of 1573088
 
Re: "One of the two is true -- either Intel is building an inventory of 128K Coppermines, or something is wrong with the 128K Coppermines which will require (most likely) a mask revision."

Not necessarily. First off, I don't believe that Intel will use the same die for the CeleronIII as they do for the CuMine because Intel won't get enough failures at 256K to meet CeleronIII demand and it would be a huge waste of silicon real estate to dumb down CuMines just to have CeleronIIIs to sell. Intel will have a smaller die for the CeleronIIIs just like back in the old 486DX/SX days.

Secondly, I don't think Intel has enough fab capacity converted over yet to .18u to support both products. That's why the CeleronIII hasn't shown up yet.

EP



To: Petz who wrote (82493)12/10/1999 12:06:00 AM
From: Paul Engel  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1573088
 
Petz - Re: "if a Coppermine CPU only has 128K of its 256K L2 cache functional, it is supposed to be sold as a low end Celeron chip"

Reality Check !!!

Current Celerons run at 2.0 volts !

Coppermines run at 1.6 volts - 2 volts would be way over stressing them.

They are DIFFERENT CHIPS - require DIFFERENT motherboards with DIFFERENT POWER SUPPLIES.

That cockamamy idea is absurd.

Paul