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To: cloudless who wrote (5930)12/10/1999 4:15:00 PM
From: dunlurkin  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18137
 
cloudless- think twice about using a market order to sell short. Since you have to sell on a bid uptick, you will not be filled until that happens. If the stock had collapsed harder than it did, you might have been filled at 28 or 29 instead of 34 5/8. You were fortunate to be filled where you were filled.



To: cloudless who wrote (5930)12/10/1999 5:12:00 PM
From: TraderAlan  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18137
 
cloudless,

<Constructive input is appreciated>

Here's one: don't count on LII for anything more than very short term input on market direction. Unless you know the major swing levels, it won't show you what's going to happen 3-5 minutes in the future.

Here another: indicators at the intraday level are subject to major violations. Experienced traders can read these breaks and understand them but most surface-level TA types will be fooled. It's best to learn exactly how and why indicators do what they do so you can ignore them or adjust your signals to take this noise into account.

IOW the market is never so simple as to let you buy-sell successfully over time if your behavior is based solely on a crossover or crosspoint.

Alan



To: cloudless who wrote (5930)12/10/1999 6:20:00 PM
From: Mark Davis  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18137
 
FWIW, At E*trade, barring system malfunctions, I find the executions to be quite fast. Nothing like two minutes. More like 5 seconds for marketable orders.

If you preload the trading screen, you can get an order to market in seconds. I've gotten fills that were quite miraculous that way.

If you want a broker who takes 5 minutes to process an order, and then blames the Internet, I can recommend Suretrade without hesitation.



To: cloudless who wrote (5930)12/11/1999 1:27:00 AM
From: Dan Duchardt  Respond to of 18137
 
cloudless,

saw that Level II showed strong support at 28 just outside of the inside bid (8 market makers lined up with buys at 28 while stock was dropping from 28 1/8)

Using this as an indication it was time to get out after a 6 point drop (10 points from the beginning) in your favor was probably a good idea. But had you been long CORL a few ticks above that 28 1/8, I wouldn't count on a measly 8 MMs holding up the stock. You never know based on the sizes they show how much the MMS really want to buy, or how many of them will move their quotes down if they see selling at that price. A stock as active as CORL can rip through 8 MMs in a heartbeat. You should at least look at the levels below for more strength, or have some reason like a prior support level to expect a reversal.

Dan



To: cloudless who wrote (5930)12/11/1999 7:24:00 AM
From: gaj  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 18137
 
what i used to do with e-trade (in regards to shorting) was - because i felt i could *not* guarantee their system would stay up (and i've only completely stopped trading from them in the last 2 weeks) or execute - was short a point or so below where i thought it would be when they got my trade.

obviously, i would only do this on stocks that i expected to fall huge (like corl, china during that runup), butthat's how i did it with etrade.