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To: Grainne who wrote (66059)	12/11/1999 7:10:00 AM
From: Ilaine	Respond to of 108807

It's possible that Luke's story of the birth of Christ was an invention. It's also possible that Luke drew on sources that Mark and Matthew did not use, because Luke thought it was important, where Mark and Matthew didn't. As Cahill recounts it, Luke wrote in Greek, not Aramaic, as Mark and Matthew did. Luke also followed a traditional Greek literary tradition of recounting a biography, which included starting with the lineage and the early days. Certainly all the Evangelists drew on oral sources. At any rate, I commend Cahill's book, it's quite readable, as was "How The Irish Saved Civilization."

To: Grainne who wrote (66059)	12/11/1999 11:05:00 AM
From: nihil	Respond to of 108807

That's where the supposed association of Luke and John with Mary comes in. If John is telling the truth in his Gospel, and not just embroidering the relationship, it would be natural for Mary to tell everything to John, and John, who apparently lived very long, may have passed it on to Luke. Mary, of course, had a strained relationship with Jesus. When she suspected he was mad, he rejected her and his brothers (presumably her children with Joseph). Her son James the Just was later murdered. She may have been driven mad by the murder of two of her sons, and perhaps idealized Jesus in what she told to John. John was probably deeply disturbed too. After all, he had suffered through terror and exile, and had the closest possible relationship to Jesus (the disciple whom Jesus loved).