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To: pezz who wrote (63488)12/12/1999 2:27:00 PM
From: C Kahn  Respond to of 67261
 
pezz, John 3:1 There was a man of the Pharisees, named Nicodemus, a ruler of the Jews: 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him. 3:3
Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God. 3:4
Nicodemus saith unto him, How can a man be born when he is old? can he enter the second time into his mother's womb, and be born? 3:5
Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and [of] the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. 3:6
That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. 3:7
Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again. 3:8 The wind bloweth where it listeth, and thou hearest the sound thereof, but canst not tell whence it cometh, and whither it goeth: so is every one that is born of the Spirit. 3:9
Nicodemus answered and said unto him, How can these things be? 3:10
Jesus answered and said unto him, Art thou a master of Israel, and knowest not these things? 3:11 Verily, verily, I say unto thee, We speak that we do know, and testify that we have seen; and ye receive not our witness. 3:12 If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you [of] heavenly things? 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven. 3:14 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up:
3:15 That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life. 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. 3:17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. 3:18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. 3:19 And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. 3:20 For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. 3:21 But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God. 3:22
After these things came Jesus and his disciples into the land of Judaea; and there he tarried with them, and baptized. 3:23 And John also was baptizing in Aenon near to Salim, because there was much water there: and they came, and were baptized.
3:24 For John was not yet cast into prison. 3:25 Then there arose a question between [some] of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying. 3:26 And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all [men] come to him. 3:27 John answered and said, A man can receive nothing, except it be given him from heaven. 3:28 Ye yourselves bear me witness, that I said, I am not the Christ, but that I am sent before him. 3:29 He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled. 3:30 He must increase, but I [must] decrease. 3:31 He that cometh from above is above all: he that is of the earth is earthly, and speaketh of the earth: he that cometh from heaven is above all. 3:32 And what he hath seen and heard, that he testifieth; and no man receiveth his testimony. 3:33 He that hath received his testimony hath set to his seal that God is true. 3:34 For he whom God hath sent speaketh the words of God: for God giveth not the Spirit by measure [unto him]. 3:35 The Father loveth the Son, and hath given all things into his hand. 3:36 He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him.



To: pezz who wrote (63488)12/12/1999 4:04:00 PM
From: haqihana  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 67261
 
I do not come here to argue. From my reading of many of the past posts on this topic board, it seems that what started as an argument has grown into a war. This seems foolish to me. A war fought from hundreds, maybe thousands, of miles can only amount to very silly cannon shots that will not win any battles. Only people will be wounded from the bursting of shells and no victory will ever be known. Discussion at any distance can be productive. If it does not seem to have any good results, perhaps even the discussion should be stopped and other topics should be considered for discussion.

As in a fight between two pit bull dogs, all others should stay out of the pit because in the fury of the battle even those who try to help can be bitten. There will always be those who want to help their own dog or the dog of a friend but the dog sometimes does not see this in the heat of the battle. When it becomes clear that neither dog has a chance of winning, they should go apart and leave the pit in peace while they lick their wounds and recover from the violence of the battle. Otherwise a good animal may be wasted for no good reason.

It seems that the topic of this board began as a discussion of the sanity of the present president. I will not show my thoughts here because many words have been written and said about what has happened and, since he soon will not be of importance to our government, perhaps we can recover from the effects of what has happened and try very hard to mend the tears that are in the freedoms promised by those who started this nation.

To those who may not be, or agree with, Christians please consider that Christians are only human beings too and none of us, or you, are perfect. We all feel emotions that can sometime get out of reason and foolish things are said and done. It may be good if all of you find another place to have your discussions until this place has had a chance to cool down. The vibrations of anger are very strong here and this is not a good thing.

I hope that I have said some words that can help to end the battle and heal some wounds. I do not intend to interfere.