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Pastimes : Whodunit? Two Stockbrokers Murdered in Jersey; No Clues -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Janice Shell who wrote (939)	12/12/1999 4:50:00 PM
From: TideGlider	Respond to of 1156

It was a Turkish man found dead in Ocean County a short time after the Murders at 3 BlueBell. Just a curious note. TG

To: Janice Shell who wrote (939)	12/12/1999 8:51:00 PM
From: Jeffrey S. Mitchell	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1156

Re: Ahmet Adnan Saygun, Naci Yucel, Mikhail Kofman, Alex Katsev All these people are connected to a web hosting site called 9Netave.com located in Fort Lee, NJ. These guys have a couple of hosting services in Turkey called adabilgisayer.com and superonline.com. Two months ago they were acquired by Concentric Network Corp. (Nasdaq: CNCX). How (if) they link to the Chalem and Lehmann murder and/or the murder of the Turkish man, Mustafa Yakut, I don't immediately see. It sure would be intriguing if there were a link. Perhaps if stand.tall knows of one he could be kind enough to throw us another bone as he obviously follows this thread (g). ----- Registrant: 9 Net Avenue, Inc. (9NETAVE-DOM) One Parker Plaza Fort Lee, NJ 07024 Domain Name: 9NETAVE.COM Administrative Contact: Kofman, Mikhail (MK2910) mkof@9NETAVE.COM (201)944-9644 (FAX) (201)944-9607 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Hostmaster (HO1320-ORG) hostmaster@9NETAVE.COM 000-000-0000 Fax- 000-000-0000 Billing Contact: Katsev, Alexander (AK1622) alex@9NETAVE.COM (201)944-9644 (FAX) (201)944-9607 Record last updated on 01-Nov-1999. Record created on 06-Mar-1997. Database last updated on 11-Dec-1999 05:43:31 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS2.9NETAVE.COM 216.156.2.2 NS3.9NETAVE.COM 216.156.2.3 networksolutions.com ----- ----- Registrant: Ada Elektronik Mhendislik (ADABILGISAYAR2-DOM) samli sk.no.31/17 Avcilar istanbul, tr 34840 TR Domain Name: ADABILGISAYAR.COM Administrative Contact: Yucel, Naci (NY354) adacom@SUPERONLINE.COM 905323720619 (FAX) 902125908885 Technical Contact, Zone Contact: Hostmaster (HO1320-ORG) hostmaster@9NETAVE.COM 000-000-0000 Fax- 000-000-0000 Billing Contact: Yucel, Naci (NY354) adacom@SUPERONLINE.COM 905323720619 (FAX) 902125908885 Record last updated on 30-Jul-1999. Record created on 12-Jan-1999. Database last updated on 11-Dec-1999 05:43:31 EST. Domain servers in listed order: NS2.9NETAVE.COM 216.156.2.2 NS3.9NETAVE.COM 216.156.2.3 networksolutions.com -----

To: Janice Shell who wrote (939)	1/1/2000 11:28:00 AM
From: RumbleFish	Respond to of 1156

From www.lukeford.com. Interview with porn webmaster named Joe Elkin: Next I asked Joe about this story from the Washington Post: COLTS NECK, N.J. –– Two Internet penny stock promoters found shot to death had ties to "shady" business dealings, which may ultimately have led to their execution-style killings, a prosecutor said. Alain Chalem, 41, and Mayir Lehmann, 37, were found early Tuesday face down on the bloodstained marble floor of the estate Chalem shared with his girlfriend and her 13-year-old son. Though investigators have not pinpointed a motive or suspects, Monmouth County Prosecutor John Kaye said the attack likely was at least partly tied to the pair's penny stock Web operation, www.stockinvestor.com, or other ventures. "It was probably related to the victims' business activities," Kaye said, "and the killer or killers feared something else more than the loss of money." Joe: "I did not know those two guys [killed] but I know somebody who was dealing with them. Those two guys fucked around with the wrong guys. These stock things are big money and they left a paper trail... It's nothing to fuck around with. "There's a guy named Jeff Smith in Florida who did business with a company that sells the machines that allow you to trade from home... These three guys finagled $15 million away from that company and they got whacked because of it. End of story. They were stealing.